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US evangelicals warn Republicans
BBC ^ | 3/17/6 | Jamie Coomarasamy

Posted on 03/17/2006 3:04:27 PM PST by Crackingham

Prominent leaders from the Christian right have warned Republicans they must do more to advance conservative values ahead of the US mid-term elections. Their message to Congress, controlled by Republicans, is "must do better". Support from about a quarter of Americans who describe themselves as evangelicals was a factor in President George W Bush's two election victories. The Republicans will need to keep them onboard if they are to retain control of Congress in November.

At a news conference in Washington, some of America's most influential conservative leaders said the current perception among evangelical Christians was that the Republican majority was not doing enough for them. Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said that apart from confirming two conservative judges to the Supreme Court, "core values voters" did not feel that Congress was advancing their interests.

The leaders appear to be reflecting a growing sense of frustration among the Christian right, over what they see as a lack of legislative progress on issues such as banning same-sex marriages.


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To: Dolphy; unentitled
....An idle threat at best. Where else would they throw their support.....
And from the article:

What is the numbers, something like 95% get reelected each cycle?

Until they can provide district by district numbers for all 435 districts in the house showing that their support would dislodge an existing candidate or prevent a GOP candidate from winning I don't have much faith in their blustering.

There were some percentage of the so called 'evangelicals' that vote democrat each time. I don't remember the number but it's somewhere in the mid teens I think. I'm not where I can put my hands on the exit polling data right now.

81 posted on 03/17/2006 4:55:27 PM PST by deport
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To: durasell

...and gay rights. Nascar people love that.


82 posted on 03/17/2006 4:58:18 PM PST by Luke21
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To: grandpa jones
It doesn't matter, because any opponent of his is going to hammer him mercilessly on those points.

When you couple them with his unabashedly liberal political views, we may very well find ourselves in a bizarre situation in 2008, in which Democrat Mark Warner can very credibly claim to be the conservative candidate in a race against Republican Rudy Giuliani.

Nobody in the GOP really trusts these Northeastern Republicans -- nor should they. And nobody in either party really trusts these Northeastern candidates from either party. It's no coincidence that there hasn't been a New Yorker on a winning national ticket since FDR won in 1944.

83 posted on 03/17/2006 4:59:22 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Wrong ...individual issues are going to take a back seat to some one has COMPETENCE and Judgment. Something we have not had for 14 years. Gulliani will be able to backtrack some social issues ..immigration ...by saying how 9/11 changed him. He wins every poll including Southern Repubs.

http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2006/03/13/daily28.html

This poll must make the hard right cringe....me I'm a South Park Repub and am riding high thnx..

Rudy will beat the competition like a government mule in the debates...ya really think Allen can out-debate Rudy? Cmon!!

Rudy will handily win the primaries and take 40 states over hillarty in the general.
He will even take NY
84 posted on 03/17/2006 5:03:04 PM PST by Blackirish (Happy St. Pats.)
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To: durasell

Ment to include you in last post..so sorry


85 posted on 03/17/2006 5:05:12 PM PST by Blackirish (Happy St. Pats.)
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To: tkathy

I think we are surfing this wave...I would almost take a wager on 2008, for Rudy will win unless another arises (and 'e or she ain't around yet).


86 posted on 03/17/2006 5:11:26 PM PST by Dark Skies (Support our troops!)
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To: Soul Seeker

Amen. Many Christians will be content to not vote this year, despite what the Republicans want. They've passed their state laws against gay marriage, which was what got a large percentage of them out in recent elections.

Many will feel that getting caught up in worldly events like political elections is a distraction from tending to the spirit.
And I won't be one to tell them they are wrong.


87 posted on 03/17/2006 5:15:58 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Tabi Katz

The reason the Pubbies need the SocCons is BECAUSE they are so willing to sit it out.

You have to pay for the things you can't get for free.


88 posted on 03/17/2006 5:18:11 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Crackingham

from an interview:
Church of the Nazarene
Rev. Ron Moeller, Pastor

"There isn't very much interest here in intelligent design, because we think the most important thing is saving souls for our Lord Jesus. It doesn't matter if people believe in evolution as a way of understanding the flowers and meadows and animals of God's creation. People come to Christ sometimes by the Bible, but just as often by personal experiences of the Holy Spirit and are born again, sometimes by family or friends, sometimes, I hope, by their pastor. Intelligent design doesn't help at all, because it has no foundation in the Bible.

"It has come up a few times in our Adult Study classes, but the 'special complexity' and stuff didn't attract much interest." Someone asked, "What does this have to do with the Bible?"

The Presiding Bishop said that "ID opens the door to pantheism and every kind of New Age cults. And it does not mention Christ or the soul, so it is not Christian, and it doesn't seem to be good science."

"It [Intelligent design] is probably like one of these cults that come along every few years, like New Age. Maybe it will become its own church, like Scientology or Christian Science. I think in two or three years we will hear very little from them."


89 posted on 03/17/2006 5:19:03 PM PST by thomaswest (Just curious)
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To: antceecee

Yes, that's part of it. Much of politics is irrational, and you've cited a good example.


90 posted on 03/17/2006 5:20:56 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: COEXERJ145

"People who don't vote because they can't find their "perfect" candidate that obsesses over the same single issue love to make a lot of noise about their refusing to vote but candidates never count on their votes to begin with."

Sounds like a description of a big slice of FR. Good phrases.

"perfect candidate"

"obsesses"

"single issue"

"a lot of noise"

"refusing to vote"


91 posted on 03/17/2006 5:21:23 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: 9999lakes
proud of my vote against Bush1 in 92

Bill Clinton is proud of your vote for Perot too.

America thanks you!

92 posted on 03/17/2006 5:22:12 PM PST by wireman
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To: COEXERJ145

You seem very sure about your assertions. Do you have anything to back them up?

Or should I assume it's just wishful thinking?


93 posted on 03/17/2006 5:23:21 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: ModelBreaker

But we have posters here who claim that the people who threaten not to vote never vote anyway, though how they know this I'll never guess.

They don't seem to understand that people always takes for granted things that they get free.

That means, if you're guaranteed to vote for a particular party, you're guaranteed to be ignored by said party.


94 posted on 03/17/2006 5:27:37 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: wireman

Exactly.


95 posted on 03/17/2006 5:28:54 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: VadeRetro

LOL! Good catch....


96 posted on 03/17/2006 5:29:17 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: durasell

Never meant to insinuate anything about his orientation and I thought it was funnier than hell. I thought your point was the things that he's done that other people will take for a ride. I think that this episode would be one of them.


97 posted on 03/17/2006 5:29:43 PM PST by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: Soul Seeker
There is NO mandate in the Bible that says,"Thou must keep the Republican Party in power." If they fail to hold themselves to campaign promises? They are not owed anyone's vote.

A-Freaking-men to what you just wrote.

Judges 9:8 - The trees went forth [on a time] to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive tree, Reign thou over us. (9) But the olive tree said unto them, Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honour God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? (10) And the trees said to the fig tree, Come thou, [and] reign over us. (11) But the fig tree said unto them, Should I forsake my sweetness, and my good fruit, and go to be promoted over the trees? (12) Then said the trees unto the vine, Come thou, [and] reign over us. (13) And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? (14) Then said all the trees unto the bramble, Come thou, [and] reign over us.
98 posted on 03/17/2006 5:30:10 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: madprof98

Holding my nose to vote won't block the stench of death.


99 posted on 03/17/2006 5:34:49 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: COEXERJ145
"candidates never count on their votes to begin with"

I don't believe that for a minute.
The evangelical Christian vote is make or break for
the Republican Party.

Without it they are doomed to be the minority party.

Don't believe it?
Let the party nominate another moderate globalist,
and you better prepare yourself for a democrat administration.

100 posted on 03/17/2006 5:43:46 PM PST by trickyricky
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