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US evangelicals warn Republicans
BBC ^ | 3/17/6 | Jamie Coomarasamy

Posted on 03/17/2006 3:04:27 PM PST by Crackingham

Prominent leaders from the Christian right have warned Republicans they must do more to advance conservative values ahead of the US mid-term elections. Their message to Congress, controlled by Republicans, is "must do better". Support from about a quarter of Americans who describe themselves as evangelicals was a factor in President George W Bush's two election victories. The Republicans will need to keep them onboard if they are to retain control of Congress in November.

At a news conference in Washington, some of America's most influential conservative leaders said the current perception among evangelical Christians was that the Republican majority was not doing enough for them. Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said that apart from confirming two conservative judges to the Supreme Court, "core values voters" did not feel that Congress was advancing their interests.

The leaders appear to be reflecting a growing sense of frustration among the Christian right, over what they see as a lack of legislative progress on issues such as banning same-sex marriages.


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To: Blackirish

They have had the Whitehouse for 8 years




Who they?
GWB was elected in November of 2000.
Took office in January, 2001.


21 posted on 03/17/2006 3:40:58 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Tabi Katz
There is not one abortion he won't allow or one gun he will.

I am pro-life and pro-gun.

Rudy wont get my gun and when he's gone we can address abortion and all the other conservative issues.

But in the meantime, he is the only person that seems to fill the "vacuum of history."

It exists and is in fact growing...and there is no one (except Rudy) that can fill it.

This vacuum exists because of the attack of islam on modernity. It will be filled once islam is defeated.

22 posted on 03/17/2006 3:41:16 PM PST by Dark Skies (Support our troops!)
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To: COEXERJ145


BTTT!
Correct.


23 posted on 03/17/2006 3:42:06 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: AmericaUnited; Sam Gamgee; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Frumanchu; topcat54
I find it strange in fact that 25% of evangelicals vote Democrat
That to me is a most certain sign of severe brain damage. Utterly illogical and incomprehensible.

Speaking of illogical and incomprehensible, I saw this on a bumper sticker, in a public school parking lot last week:

Christian by choice,
Democrat by the grace of God!

24 posted on 03/17/2006 3:43:17 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: unentitled
An idle threat at best. Where else would they throw their support. They've got to realize that we're all in this together and that personalities with principles is what the Republican Party desperately needs.

1982. Don't discount it. I run the county R efforts for GOTV in a big, swing county in a swing state. I can tell you that the folks who I would normally count on to walk precincts (the vast bulk of whom are Christians) are mightily pissed off at their party and are stepping up to volunteer at a much lower rate this year than two or four years ago. It's not just the Christians. It's the fiscals and the immigration folks, too.

Conservatives don't vote democrat. They stay home.

It's easy to wave your hands and discount this because it's not rational. And I agree with you in that sense, that's why I work for the party even though much of its leadership is no better than the Rats. But you and I are political junkies. For regular folks out there, they have to be given a reason to vote. And "Vote for us. We don't suck as much as the Democrats," is not a very inspiring message. And that's what your reasoning amounts to.

25 posted on 03/17/2006 3:43:39 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Crackingham

Republican ought to stand up for a change and warn evangelicals!


26 posted on 03/17/2006 3:44:18 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: onyx
Your right...I thought that after I posted it.

I am soo ready for a Gulliani or a Newt to win the Whitehouse....Between clinton and W and Carter the odds of another Bible wearing Southerner winning the Whitehouse equals that of Custers bugler.
27 posted on 03/17/2006 3:45:45 PM PST by Blackirish (Happy St. Pats.)
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To: California Patriot

I think there are a lot of blue-collar conservatives who were raised in union working families that voted Democrat from generation to generation. The loyalty is more to family tradition than to support of the real Dummie Party of today.
To vote Republican would be like slapping your Grandmother.
Family loyalty overides sensibility.
I know, I come from the same background and it's sad to see people you love who won't cross the line and vote for what is good for them.
Democrats like Hillary play to the middle to keep these people appeased.


28 posted on 03/17/2006 3:47:15 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: California Patriot
It's not always a case of voting dem or not voting at all, but something even more scary to a politician: Giving less money to his campaign or donating to a more conservative candidate. These aren't always an either-or-else situation. Probably the candidate originally ran and won on a more conservative platform but got caught up with the media and promises of money if he bends just a little to the left on just a few items. The Christians might just want him to come back to the reservation.
29 posted on 03/17/2006 3:48:11 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (But even if he does not...)
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To: Crackingham
Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said that apart from confirming two conservative judges to the Supreme Court, "core values voters" did not feel that Congress was advancing their interests.

"Core values are family values. Don't make me bring Mother into this."

30 posted on 03/17/2006 3:48:21 PM PST by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: Dark Skies

I'm with you on Giuliani. I heard him speak at a seminar and my high opinion of him was reinforced. What a great man. This country would be very well served by Rudy.


31 posted on 03/17/2006 3:49:11 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: antceecee

At least it would be entertaining...


32 posted on 03/17/2006 3:50:09 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Yes it certainly would be! His quirky humor is a plus.


33 posted on 03/17/2006 3:51:40 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: COEXERJ145

"These Kinds" of people...sounds kinda arrogant to me. I'm one of them actually, and just as proud of my vote against Bush1 in 92, as of my votes For BUSH2 in 200 and 2004.

Why would anyone just stay home? Easy Question. Because to excersise political power it is necessary both to cast your political ballot and to with-hold it. A Perfect example ... Blacks and the democratic party -- they cast their ballots for libs every time, and are thus taken for granted. But watch what would happen if one time they made an organized effort to stay home.

Are eveangelicals taken for granted by the right? I see the answer even in this thread.


34 posted on 03/17/2006 3:52:55 PM PST by 9999lakes
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To: Dark Skies
But in the meantime, he is the only person that seems to fill the "vacuum of history."

It exists and is in fact growing...and there is no one (except Rudy) that can fill it.

In a country of about 250 million, surely we can find ONE who can execute the war on terror AND is a conservative? No, I can't name any names yet (except possibly George Allen), but surely someone will come forward. I'm hoping! But if Giuliani were the candidate, many evangelicals - and those who share their issues - will most likely stay home or vote third party. And I just can't see the GOP winning without them.

35 posted on 03/17/2006 3:53:22 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: antceecee

I meant the way that he'd be taken apart in a national campaign. He's pretty much un-electable on the national level. Mostly because what is acceptable behavior in NYC is unacceptable in other parts of the country.


36 posted on 03/17/2006 3:53:25 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Blackirish

I truly admire Newt, but I think the msm demonized him pretty successfully. Newt is highly intelligent and would be an asset to any conservative administration, but I don't think he could ever win the Presidency.


37 posted on 03/17/2006 3:53:26 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: durasell

I don't agree. I think he is electable on a National level. You would get cross over Dems... just like Reagan did.


38 posted on 03/17/2006 3:55:22 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: jmaroneps37
They are sophisticated people who realize the country would be light years away from their liking if they let the rat regain control.

I agree. If Democrats came into power we'd have a trillion dollar drug plan, billions more spent on education, an evergrowing debt, and a party that doesn't listen to their constituency. Oh wait.......

The leaders appear to be reflecting a growing sense of frustration among the Christian right, over what they see as a lack of legislative progress on issues such as banning same-sex marriages.

The problem I have with 'evangelicals' (although I fall under that same group) is the idea that any of these social ideas should be legislated at the national level. Republicans nor Democrats have any understanding or care for a federalist system. These ideals have spread to their followers. They just want their 'team' in place and Constitutional limitations on the national government out the window if it fits their cause

39 posted on 03/17/2006 3:56:17 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Crackingham
I would consider myself part of this group. Maybe without the "religious zeal" but I share most of the same values all the same.

I'm not as concerned about gay marriage (let the courts fight it out until doomsday) as much as I'm concerned about fiscal discipline.

Stealing money from US (and our great-great grandchildren) to build a "bridge to nowhere" or to give it away to a corrupt NOLA is far more grievous and serious.

Out-of-control illegal immigration runs a close second of my concerns.

40 posted on 03/17/2006 3:56:30 PM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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