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House Appropiations Committe voted to block Dubai deal
Fox News Alert | March 8, 2006

Posted on 03/08/2006 2:53:43 PM PST by Ooh-Ah

House Appropiations Committe voted to block Dubai deal


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; arabbashing; arabsocialism; bushborgs; bushbots; cfius; dpworld; dubai; farrakhanitis; godubai; homelandsecurity; howboutsomekoolaid; iraq; kneejerk; military; port; portgate; ports; racehustlers; sanborn; snow; uae; uaetalibansupporters; whitehouseshills
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To: Ooh-Ah
AS I said, veto it, put the odious where it belongs come hell or high water. Bush needs to stand on principle for this one, at first the crescendo of screaming faces, then a real discussion of the facts. First slap the hell out of public consciousness, then force them to come to grips with what is at stake.

He of course will do none of the above, he will fold like a wet noodle, and be held up to ridicule for being weak after saying he would veto.
481 posted on 03/08/2006 10:30:17 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

IMO, he'll seek a way to keep the deal intact through back door means first. Should that and other options fail I have no certain idea if he'll carry through on the VETO.

But if ever he were going to do so, I do believe he would on this. The stakes in the WOT and our national security are too high. If Congress is determined to act irrationally, they should bear the brunt of the burden for the consequnces that follow. And I don't refer to political burdens, but a real stake in the outcome of our national security by alienating pivotal allies in this war.

Let them explain 10-20 years down the road to the American people why they wouldn't listen to facts but instead polls of an American populas who don't have access to the data the administration has offered..and summarily been rejected by these politicians for study.


482 posted on 03/08/2006 10:37:29 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Rush on the MSM: drive-by shooters)
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To: Elyse

You misunderstand. The 62-2 vote today was by the Appropriations committee voting for the amendment that will go in the bill.

House panel votes to block ports deal Fox News

March 8, 2006 04:20 PM

WASHINGTON — Despite a presidential veto threat, a House committee on Wednesday voted to block a controversial ports deal that has President Bush in the hotseat.

The House Appropriations Committee passed an amendment to attach to a $92 billion emergency supplemental funding measure for hurricane recovery and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The committee vote was 62-2.

"The amendment is straight-forward and is a rifle shot crack to block the Dubai Ports World deal only. This is a national issue. This is a national security bill. We want to make sure that the security of our ports is in America's hands," said Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif., committee chairman.

House Republicans led the charge to pass legislation that would block an administration-approved plan to hand over terminal operations at six U.S. ports to a UAE-owned company, Dubai Ports World. A British company, Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co., currently operates the terminals in question.

http://khon.com/khon/display.cfm?storyID=11869&sectionID=1161

483 posted on 03/08/2006 10:37:54 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

so we can racially profile who can own certain business' but we can't racially profile who flies on our airlines


484 posted on 03/08/2006 10:44:46 PM PST by mfnorman
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To: Mo1
I readily admit I've had my concerns about this deal .. but the way the republicans have acted is way over board .. they had no intentions of reviewing this any of this .. they didn't want facts .. they didn't want questions answered. They already made up their minds .. which leads me to believe there are back room dealing going on. This reaction is all about them and screw the rest of us in finding out the answers to best handle this sale

Yep.

They don't give a damn about us..or national security..or anyone but themselves. All they care about is polls. Polls will be cold comfort on election day without voters pulling the lever for them. And, right now, the only reason I have to pull the lever is to keep Impeachment dogs at bay and protect our military. But I have to wonder, if I pull that lever will that stave off impeachment hounds and keep our military secure and keep a strong fight in the WOT? The Republicans have shown they aren't much apart from the Democrats in principle. All either of them care about is power and they'll do anything they think will help them to keep it.

485 posted on 03/08/2006 10:47:37 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Rush on the MSM: drive-by shooters)
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To: EternalVigilance
On the press wires......

Dubai Ports has no plans to sell US ops--report Wed Mar 8, 2006 9:18 PM ET

LONDON, March 9 (Reuters) - Port operator Dubai Ports World has no plans to sell its newly acquired operations managing six U.S. ports , despite a fierce political dispute in Washington, its head said in an interview published on Thursday.

DP World Chief Executive Mohammed Sharaf said his company would take all "humanly possible" measures to counter fears its takeover of the ports threatens U.S. security.

"We have not even thought of that (selling the port management operations) yet," he said in an interview with Britain's Financial Times newspaper. "We have a business to run -- the USA is part of it."

The newspaper's Web site (www.ft.com) reported that private equity groups had approached DP World about buying its U.S. operations. The report, citing unnamed people familiar with the matter, gave no more details.

486 posted on 03/08/2006 10:54:21 PM PST by spokeshave (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Chaney than drive over a bridge with Ted Kennedy)
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To: Bubbatuck
I already have.

You gave your opinion based on a preconceived notion that the UAE has a burning desire to spend 6 billion dollars to destroy a handful of terminals at several ports.

Security information will not be given to the government of the UAE.

You're assuming DP World is an intelligence arm of the UAE. Do you have any concrete information to back up that opinion?

It will be harder for an Arab terrorist to infiltrate the organization.

How so? It would probably be easier for an Arab terrorist to infiltrate a British company if that's what they wanted. A European company is much more sensitive to perceived suggestions of bigotry or prejudice.

Something as mundane as "the #5 radiation detector will be offline for repairs from 6/12 to 6/15" is information that should not be shared with an Islamic state.

What on earth makes you think there would be no redundancy built into the system....and they'd have access to HSD security info? Haven't you considered that it would be far easier to plant a terrorist in the Mercedes plant in Germany loading the containers that are sealed IN THE PLANT, knowing they're not going to be checked in the USA?

I've never said that the UAE has a history, or even a desire, to harm us. But their control of these terminals will give those who DO wish to harm us an easier entree.

You've made the assumption that because they're owned by Arabs, they're going to be predisposed to terrorist activities on our soil. You haven't shown any factual evidence that the same scenarios couldn't happen with an American owned terminal.

487 posted on 03/08/2006 10:56:20 PM PST by jess35
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To: Soul Seeker

Let us hope principle prevails and the right thing will be done by him.


488 posted on 03/08/2006 11:00:45 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Soul Seeker
Let them explain 10-20 years down the road to the American people why they wouldn't listen to facts but instead polls of an American populas who don't have access to the data the administration has offered..and summarily been rejected by these politicians for study.

It is exceptionally dangerous to allow the lowest common denominator to dictate national security policies through ignorance and fear.

489 posted on 03/08/2006 11:04:51 PM PST by jess35
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Agreed.


490 posted on 03/08/2006 11:10:28 PM PST by Soul Seeker (House Republicans Send a message: All Arabs are Genetically pre-disposed to terrorism)
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To: jveritas
Just mark my words on this. If Congress blocks the Dubai Ports from managing the ports terminals then the UAE government will ask our military to leave their naval and air bases there, as well as kicked out our CIA and FBI agents from their country. It will be a great strategic loss of an ally and military bases in the midst of the war on terror. Also do not be surprised if Kuwait, Qatar, and Bahrain will have similar reaction to us in consolidation with their brethren in the UAE. Even to make it worse the Arab dominant OPEC may cut its production by 1 million barrel and the oil prices will soar. Already two other non Arab countries (Iran and Venezuela) were asking to cut production.

This post is total ignorance! They need our money dummy.

491 posted on 03/08/2006 11:12:12 PM PST by flattorney ( The DeLay Chronicles - Updated 24/7: http://www.freerepublic.com/~flattorney)
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To: p23185

Thanks for proving my point!


492 posted on 03/08/2006 11:13:16 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wasanother
"I respect anyone who has made a decision, either which way, but these politicians (Republicans) that are playing this game with our troops money do not belong in office. I don't criticize the Rats for it because I've just come to expect this type of stunt out of them."

Unfortunately, I have come to expect this kind of stunt all the way around. Just about the only way anything ever gets done on the hill these days.

493 posted on 03/08/2006 11:18:52 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: onyx

"IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us."

The KORAN is radical, so potentially all of the Muslims are a problem except for the back sliding Muslims. That could be 90% world wide.


494 posted on 03/08/2006 11:26:02 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: spokeshave

Real interesting. Thanks.


495 posted on 03/08/2006 11:27:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("..Dubai..the bazaar of WMD components for the world’s rogue regimes.” -Congressman Duncan Hunter)
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To: freema

LOL. Will do, freema.


496 posted on 03/09/2006 12:54:01 AM PST by Peach
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To: al_again
The new Republican mantra: "The other guys are worse".

Is it a mantra or reality? Every time I hear someone complain about someone's position, you look at who they're running against, and not only do they have a like position, but usually further off from the mainstream. Since most voting jurisdictions don't have a 'none of the above' that means anything, you're not firing anyone. You're hiring a more wacked out guy to fill the slot.

I got ticked at David Dreier's constant pandering to the illegals crowd. I happily stood outside his door for the 'Fire Dreier' protests. And on election day, I looked at his opponent, and I voted for him, because voting for the opposition meant I'd lose more. Sure, it might have been vaguely safe given the results of the election, but I can't count on everyone else in the nation not getting sick of their own morons.

Instead, I hammer his office with e-mails, faxes and letters. I join protests to get his attention, and when he has neighborhood forums, I'm sitting there with a question card already filled out. And he's getting better... Until I and others look away and he'll slink back to the strange demi-world that is Washington politics today.

Now mind you, I voted against him in the primaries in favor of someone who matched my views better. I would have been wildly enthusiastic to have seen a real campaign from him, but mostly it was a few postcards from a campaign office that wasn't even in the district. Thrilling stuff.

But if I fired, as you put it, every lame Republican that came rolling along, all that would happen is that I'd have even more Democrats screwing up my life. I'd be waiting for the Reagan to come along.. Heck, at this point, I'd love even an Orson Scott Card. But if I got a choice between a two turkeys, I'm going to always bag the one that looks least likely to cause me illness. Sure, I guess that means I lack the purity that some demand. Whoopie for them; the rest of us have work to do while they're waiting for perfection.
497 posted on 03/09/2006 2:33:03 AM PST by kingu (Liberalism: The art of sticking your fingers in your ears and going NANANANA..)
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To: MikefromOhio
Dubai is still a great place to take some time off.

Yeah, I hear it's a popular getaway for Iranian mullahs...

498 posted on 03/09/2006 2:39:24 AM PST by be-baw
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


499 posted on 03/09/2006 3:06:31 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: freema
1. Is the Miami port one affected by this deal?

Yes. Miami is one of the major ports in the P&O transfer. I looked at that one early because it included an early lawsuit to stop the sale.

Tampa wasn't listed as one in the deal, but Tampa was/is the process of kicking out SSA in favor of P&O - I assume Tampa would also be transferred as part of the deal, assuming P&O is aiming to get out of the terminal operation business altogether.

2. Did I read right (giving a cursory glance) that Dems got all sort of $$ from the Miami port?

Not from the port, but from some of the business interests that facilitate operation of the port. Stolen money was donated to the DNC in 1994.

Laredo Morning Times - Thursday, June 4, 1998
BY CATHERINE WILSON
AP Business Writer

MIAMI - Three men associated with the Port of Miami, including its ousted former director, were charged Wednesday with stealing $1.3 million and using the money on Super Bowl tickets, lingerie and bar tabs.

They also are accused of using stolen funds to donate $120,000 to the Democratic National Committee in 1994.

Since 1990, the three "have used the Port of Miami as a personal bank," said U.S. Attorney Thomas Scott. Calvin Grigsby, owner of the company that ran the port's container cargo cranes, and former- port director Carmen Lunetta were charged with conspiracy, embezzlement and money laundering. Port contractor Neal Harrington was charged with embezzlement and theft.

http://www.lmtonline.com/news/archive/060498/pagea9.pdf

A little more at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581542/posts?page=731#731
500 posted on 03/09/2006 4:12:13 AM PST by Cboldt
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