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Rumsfeld says Tehran government sending military to destabilize Iraq
AP ^ | March 7 2006

Posted on 03/07/2006 10:37:37 AM PST by jmc1969

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To: jmc1969

I have no idea why we allow this to continue. The point needs to be made that if Iranians are killing Iraqis and Americans a few well placed bombs on military sites in Iran is going to be the consequence.


21 posted on 03/07/2006 11:03:30 AM PST by bayourant
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To: jw777
"i wish there were 15 more bombs in that picture."

The B2 is mission agile!


22 posted on 03/07/2006 11:04:08 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: jmc1969

When the list of offenses is compiled and published, this infiltration will be near the top. While technically a separate Declaration of War is not required, a state of war existing since the US Embassy was overrun, it might be advisable to make a formal Declaration of War just to quiet the skeptics.


23 posted on 03/07/2006 11:04:55 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: sam_paine
BUSHBORG" n. Opposite of a Bushbot. Collectively oppose anything Bush. Argument is futile.

Good name. I have been trying to think of one but yours is better. I will use it.

24 posted on 03/07/2006 11:05:56 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

nice. can you crop 15 more B-2's in and some Trident ICBM's LOL


25 posted on 03/07/2006 11:06:38 AM PST by jw777
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To: jmc1969

This Administration has an awful time with the concept of 'Borders'.


26 posted on 03/07/2006 11:07:19 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jmc1969
"....members of the Iranian military have been slipping into Iraq to make trouble."

So what happens when a unit of Iranian army regulars meets up with a US Army unit?
If they engage our troops would that be an act of war?

27 posted on 03/07/2006 11:09:01 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: sam_paine
"Bushborg", it has a distinguishing sound to it, nice. I have been looking at some other Republican/Conservative websites and can't believe the number of "Bushborgs" around. It's almost as though they came out just in time to sabotage the '06 elections, Sleeper Cell Bushborgs.
28 posted on 03/07/2006 11:12:52 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: sten
And exactly what jobs are those? I have personally helped harvest fields of corn, potatos, beans, and tomatoes. I have done janitorial duties as well as stocked shelves. I have done carpentry as well as concrete forms

You just answered your own question. Just because one person will do it does not prove that there are enough people in sufficient quantities willing to perform these tasks. But I'm sure you are smart enough to realize that.

29 posted on 03/07/2006 11:13:13 AM PST by plain talk
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To: golfisnr1

I suppose the tax money spent on their health care, education, incarceration, judicial system, etc means nothing to you.


30 posted on 03/07/2006 11:15:24 AM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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To: sten

It's business people wanting subsidized labor.


31 posted on 03/07/2006 11:17:55 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: plain talk
You just answered your own question. Just because one person will do it does not prove that there are enough people in sufficient quantities willing to perform these tasks. But I'm sure you are smart enough to realize that.

If that is the case, maybe, just maybe, we need to promote better work ethics in our children. Maybe they need to get off their fat ass and learn some algrebra (other thread), do some manual labor, work off the pounds physically instead of just eating low-calorie chips while watching the Simpsons.

Last i checked, not everyone can be the president of a large company, or the main attorney from a large firm. There just aren't enough jobs in the country for everyone to have their job of choice. Also, there is nowhere near enough jobs in the US for everyone in THE WHOLE WORLD. 6 billion people on the planet, only 300m here, and you think giving away 30m American jobs will help employ everyone around the world? Hardly. All it does is increase work force supply pressure, and decrease local wages. The cost of goods never decreases, only the quality.

My example shows how someone can, through hard work and persistence, progress from the most basic job up to the higher levels. This should be promoted instead of ridiculed as an oddity.

If the purpose of the open border fanatic is to increase the standard of living around the world... then you do that by promoting stability within the target country and purchasing goods and services from their corporations, placing tariffs appropriately. Over time, their corporations would flurish , local economies would grow, and the people would prosper. You don't have the capitalists from here, go over there, bride some officials and create factories that would be shutdown in a heartbeat in the US due to horrible working conditions. This is not helping the people here or there at all, but it does put huge amounts of money into the pockets of those greedy few (with which they buy spin doctors to counter any arguments contrary to their plans).

32 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:36 AM PST by sten
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To: jmc1969
Rumsfeld says, "I doubt members of the Revolutionary Guard move around willy-nilly."

Damn I love that man! How many people can actually pull of using "willy-nilly" while talking about the Iranian army!

33 posted on 03/07/2006 11:41:13 AM PST by gardencatz (A Jedi gains power through understanding and a Sith gains understanding through power--Palpatine)
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To: jmc1969
Rumsfeld did issue this warning -- he says Iranian meddling in Iraqi affairs "is something they will look back on as being an error in judgment."

Understated, yet succinct.

34 posted on 03/07/2006 11:46:03 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: gardencatz

Yeah, Rumsfeld has a real entertaining way of talking. Last week, he referred to the sectarian violence in Iraq as "a lot of tugging, hauling, and politicking." Then he said something like, "Is Iraq a pretty picture wrapped in crepe paper? No not yet, but they've made a lot of progress." What other Sec Def ever used the term "crepe paper" in a congressional hearing? He has a knack for comedy.


35 posted on 03/07/2006 1:10:39 PM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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To: sam_paine
"How many posts till someone screams "Bush Close the Borders Now!"

Every thread is a borders thread...all other topics mean nothing to the whiners.

You have to slam President Bush about borders and spending in every FR thread; it's a rule...

...for losers who want to hi-jack every thread, anyway.

36 posted on 03/07/2006 1:13:24 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: sten
Congratulations on having been a farm worker. Nevertheless, the fact remains that Americans are, in fact, far less likely to be found doing that sort of work than are illegal immigrants.

The problem, of course, is not only that Americans won't do the work (though it's true that a lot of people won't); but rather that Americans are hiring illegals to do the work.

The topic of illegal immigration into the US relates (marginally) to the topic of this thread in the following manner:

There are people in Iraq who are willing to accept this assistance from Iran. To deal with the inflow from Iran, it's best to deal with the people who are responsible for taking delivery.

Also, Iran, like Mexico, realizes that once the cross-border commerce stops, they face revolution at home....

Mexico would face a revolution because Vincente Fox realizes we're a safety valve for his restless classes.

And Iran faces revolution because, once Iraq reaches a reasonable level of stability, there's nothing to stop us from returning the favor by sending weapons to Iran's restless classes.

37 posted on 03/07/2006 1:19:39 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Southack
Every thread is a borders thread...

I don't get it. Say we close the border down tomorrow. The terrorist going to school at UNC still plows his car into 'the pit.' The terrorist that tried to detonate a bomb at the OU game, still blows up. Mo Atta would've still been flying simulators on a valid tourist visa.

All these legal ways to come into the country, why would a terrorist ever risk getting caught as an "illegal" when he could be guaranteed that "all his papers are in order" for best cover.

Seriously, how much extra effort would it take me, if I were a terrorist, to run around plotting a huge terror hit, all the while worried about getting thrown in jail for an expired drivers license, or no auto insurance, or not being able to buy drinks at the titty bar because I didn't have an ATM card....

38 posted on 03/07/2006 2:06:17 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: jmc1969
Rumsfeld did issue this warning -- he says Iranian meddling in Iraqi affairs "is something they will look back on as being an error in judgment."

Yeah, yeah, Rummy. Less 'warnings' and more...

39 posted on 03/07/2006 4:10:12 PM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: sten

"...work off the pounds physically instead of just eating low-calorie chips while watching the Simpsons."

One reason Americans don't like to do such labor is that they are unhealthy due to bad diet. Hard physical work, when done in a balanced way (not drudgery), is actually enjoyable when one is fit and healthy. Mexicans are generally fitter due to much lower calorie and refined food intake.
Thats not an excuse , just a fact. I agree we need to get off our butts.


40 posted on 03/07/2006 4:47:50 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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