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Whites to Be Minority in New York Area Soon, Data Show
New York Times ^ | March 7, 2006 | Sam Roberts

Posted on 03/07/2006 5:58:23 AM PST by HostileTerritory

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To: HostileTerritory

Anyone been to the NYC metro lately?
This survey is about 10 years late...


41 posted on 03/07/2006 7:01:23 AM PST by RadioCirca1970
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To: Clemenza

"Yeah, those Arabs have REALLY ruined the place. Thanks to the A-rabs, tiny houses now go for $600,000, out of reach for the white trash (the ones that tawk like dis) that used to live there. ;-)"


"Sheikh Muhsen Al-'Awaji: Before Islam, the Arabs fought for 40 years to
defend the honor of a female camel. This was in the Busous War. A female
camel was humiliated, and a 40-year war ensued to defend its honor. So what
about the honor of the Prophet?

Interviewer: Are you proud of this?!

Sheikh Muhsen Al-'Awaji: I am proud that honor and nobility always
characterized the Arabs, and then came Islam to reinforce these traits. I'm
not saying I'm proud of a war over a female camel's honor, or that I would
call to wage a war to defend the honor of a female camel... But since this
was done for the honor of a female camel, do not rebuke someone who would do
anything to defend our beloved Prophet Muhammad."

Welcome to the new Bay Ridge/ Beirut. But you're right rising home values offsets the camel war factor any day.


42 posted on 03/07/2006 7:01:48 AM PST by freefdny
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To: ohioman

Hispanics can be of any race; most Hispanics in the U.S. are either part Indian (mestizo) or part black (mulatto) or in some cases part Indian and part black, and there are even Hispanics of Asian descent (quite a few Asians migrated to Panama, Peru and neighboring countries a few decades ago). The Census Bureau (correctly) does not list Hispanic as a race, and most Hispanics list either white or "some other race" in their Census forms. But when this article refers to "whites" it is referring to non-Hispanic whites, sometimes known as "Anglos."


43 posted on 03/07/2006 7:04:33 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: freefdny
Yes, and the Irish practiced cannibalism, worshipped rocks, and had a third world economy until 15 years ago.

Battles in Europe have been fought over pigs. You can find examples of many "odd wars" in every civilization.

Arabs may have their flaws, but if I were to ban every ethnic group that I found even moderately distasteful (there are none that I hate), this country would lose at least 60% of its inhabitants (and the NYPD would be forced to recruit from the West Indies). ;-)

44 posted on 03/07/2006 7:05:14 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: freefdny
BTW: I lived in Bay Ridge from 2002-2004. I found it hysterical when these fat morons who were clearly on the left side of the bell curve whined and b-tched about how the Arabs were monopolizing all of the apartments and how "dey cou'nt speek propuh Englesh 'ike us in da naybahood."

Bay Ridge is fine and remains far superior to the a-s ugly hellhole that was NY's garbage dump across the Narrows.

45 posted on 03/07/2006 7:08:11 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: HostileTerritory; Labyrinthos; AuH2ORepublican
It's not about technical definitions, about how these groups function in society, and for those purposes we separate Hispanics from non-Hispanic whites.

Well, from what I have seen in Miami and NYC, most white Latinos tend to be disproportionately represented in the professions and in business. Many are themselves or are the children of the affluent classes of Colombia, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.

Put a wealthy Venezuelan in a room with upper class white Americans and a group of Nuyoricans and Dominicanyorks, and you will see that they will associate with the former.

46 posted on 03/07/2006 7:10:58 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: Baynative

SOOn the mass white exodus will be to Australia. The LIBERALS have ruined America...


47 posted on 03/07/2006 7:14:16 AM PST by Jazzman1
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To: Jazzman1
Hell no. I would rather live surrounded by Hindus and Mexicans than sunburned AngloCelts who have a more annoying accent than me.

I was born here, and I will die here. No demographic shift will change that fact.

48 posted on 03/07/2006 7:15:54 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: Clemenza

Right, sure. For now those people are a rounding error in the statistics, kind of like the Hispanics who check off "black", so they're going to fall in between the cracks everywhere but Florida.


49 posted on 03/07/2006 7:17:26 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Clemenza

What you said.


50 posted on 03/07/2006 7:24:36 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Clemenza

Can run but can't hide from black people. Sorry.


51 posted on 03/07/2006 7:30:30 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Clemenza

I can't wait to leave LI. The racial steering was blatant as it could get when my mom went to get a house and they were urging her to move to the blackest areas of Nassau County. Forget about moving into places like Levittown and East Meadow. They barely let asians in BUT it's all about hate for black people as it always was.


52 posted on 03/07/2006 7:35:01 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Clemenza
Most hispanics in NYC area are mulatto (Puerto Ricans and Dominicans) or Mestizo (Ecuadorans and Mexicans).

Many Puerto Ricans I've met have been as white as most Sicilians and Napolese. I've seen a number even with blue eyes. Interestingly:

According to a 2003 study, funded by the U.S. National Science Foundation, Puerto Rican ancestry was measured through both paternal and matrilineal ancestry. The study found that in relation to matrilineal ancestry as revealed by mtDNA, 62% of all Puerto Ricans were shown to have a female Amerindian ancestor, 27% to have a female African ancestor and 12% to have a female European ancestor. Conversely, patrilineal input as indicated by the Y chromosome, showed that 75% of all Puerto Ricans possessed a male European ancestor, 20% had a male African ancestor and less than 5% were shown to have had a male Amerindian ancestor. (Wikipedia, Puerto Rico)

Very few are white.

If Hispanics are ordinary whites (and 10-30% of many Latin American countries are) they tend to blend right into the general US white population without any difficulty, other than people tripping over the correct pronunciation of names like Alex Caballero, a kid at my high school.

In fact, most of these white Hispanics I've met want nothing to do with the Hispanic grievance class, which is a union mainly of Mexicans, Dominicans, and Puerto Ricans. Many openly speak down about the Mestizo, Indian and Mullato Hispanics, and joke about how Mexico and other countries are sending the worst trash out of their gutters to the US every year through illegal immigration. They are far more sanguine about what is going on than a typical politically correct American.

53 posted on 03/07/2006 7:41:14 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: HostileTerritory

Would this mean whites could call themselves a "minority"? Nah. That's another word that is owned by the other races, and whites aren't allowed to use.


54 posted on 03/07/2006 7:43:53 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Clemenza; Petronski

What this WHOLE debate about who is white and who isn't is all about not being considered black and all that comes along with that. I am sorry to say that living where I live many of the Salvadoreans don't like black people and want the white priviledge. They don't want to be white, just want what white people have. I remember this guy was trying to hit on me constantly well that all ended abruptly when he saw my mother (thankfully!). He was even darker than me go figure BUT because he had some light eyes somehow that made him as white as Rutger Hauer.


55 posted on 03/07/2006 7:44:49 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Brilliant

Hispanics are white if the term Hispanic is used correctly.

Hispanic means "from Spain."

Most Mexican (mestizo) immigrants aren't Hispanics, but they are categorized as such. They aren't "white" either.


56 posted on 03/07/2006 7:46:43 AM PST by Sometimes A River (allow Common Sense and Faith to trump Logic and Reason)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Correct. If you live in Miami you see such attitudes displayed openly.

As far as PR is concerned, I've seen demographic/biological data that shows that 60% of Boricua are "of color." Judging from the folks that I've met on the island or on the mainland, that sounds about right. The average Puerto Rican has more European blood than African blood (unlike Dominicans, who generally are the reverse), but, nonetheless, about 40% can be characterized as "pure white" according to most studies I have seen on the island.

57 posted on 03/07/2006 7:47:29 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: cyborg

Levittown and East Meadow can only remain so white for so long. Within 10-15 years, the iron curtain will fall. Mark my words.


58 posted on 03/07/2006 7:49:02 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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To: HostileTerritory
When do the affirmative action and minority set-asides start?
59 posted on 03/07/2006 7:49:44 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: HostileTerritory
The shift would make New York the first large metropolitan area outside the South and West in which whites do not make up a majority

Hello!! Detroit is a "large metropolitan area" (6th largest in the country). Whites have been a minority in Detroit for over 20 years. I know it's hard for New Yorkers to understand that everything west of the Hudson River is not the "wild west", but Detroit is definitely outside the South and West!

60 posted on 03/07/2006 7:51:30 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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