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It will all end when you meet Chuck Norris.
I personally learn towards
Endless Expansion The universe never quits expanding but reaches maximum entropy killing everything anyway
This not only works on the cosmic level, but also explains my waistline.....
Ok, my vote is the easy way out- PreTrib Rapture. I really am not in the mood to battle plagues and pestilience tonight. So if GOD is reading this thread, zap me up first... And I don't want the zap to hurt at all :) (how much more selfish can I be?)
Yep, that's my vote. He will return. Perhaps in my lifetime, perhaps not.
I'm no expert, but I believe that is not correct. Hindus (Vedas) have a cyclical view of time. The universe is created and destroyed over a set period of time, over and over. It may be that an Avatar appears at the end of a cycle, but that would only be one milestone, so to speak - not a cause. The end of the universe is inevitable, and is contained within the birth.
That would be the end, not the 'fall into ruin'. According to Hinduism, that is where we are right now.
I was talking to a dear friend the other night about this very subject. She said her pastor has now come to the conclusion that he's Pan-Trib. Pan-Trib? Yes. Whatever pans out....
It wasn't said in mockery, but think about it...there's nothing we can do about God's perfect timing.
BUT....for the sake of this survey, I used to be a pre- but have DEFINITELY moved more towards Mid. I don't see HOW or WHY we're so special during this generation to be spared suffering for Christ.
The tribulation, IMNSHO, is for the NON believers, not us.
Boy. I'm going to bed. That was far too long-winded for a short answer. :)
Hope your new computer COOKS tomorrow night!! I LOVE getting a new one! And thanks for praying for the little guy..
Ok I will bite on this. I will say I believe in Amillennialism, Roman Catholic. Even though as a convert from the Evanglical faith to Catholicism you are pretty right that in the big things there is not much difference between the Catholic view and Amillennialism: (Also known as Nonmillennialism. As to the specifics of how it will end I must admit that alot of what the preterism people say is valid to me also and in fact some bits(not all) can be reconciled with the two views I have mentioned above. So as to certain passages esp in Matthew I incorporated some of those viewpoints while still maintaining an orthodox Catholic Amillennialism view
I tend to follow the Catholic teachings towards the end of it all (or perhaps the begining of it all, depending on how you look at it...)
Amillennialism, Roman Catholic.
Historical Premillenialism or Pre-Wrath Rapture gets my vote. They are pretty close, if not the same thing.
Pre-trib rapture, appearance of the Antichrist, pre-mill rapture, post-mill Armageddon, post-Armagedon final judgment and creation of new heaven and earth.
Amil (this week anyway)
So, I don't know where that puts me. I think a great deal of what we are expecting may take place on two levels, spiritual and in th flesh.
Historic Premil with leanings toward prewrath rapture position.
Cap Huff
I had a different option:
Big Trinidadian Crunch: The universe expands by strictly naturalistic means and then collapses when the mother of the bride destroys the universe because the caterer has badly buggered the wedding by serving nothing but garlic bread and home fries.
Shall I tell you of the three classical arguments for the existence of God, as if such a thing were up to us? The teleological, the ontological, and my personal favorite the cosmological - these are mighty constructs of the mightiest gift of God, the human mind, and compared to that which they dare to measure they are dust on the floor. God has, I think, given us reason - it is unlikely that reason will give us God.
I'll see you there, I think, and together we will gape at it as children do at wonders beyond their imagination. That may be what we're made for. It isn't anything to be ashamed of.
'Night!