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States Grapple With In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants
fox ^ | 3-4-06 | liza porteus

Posted on 03/05/2006 8:30:51 PM PST by LouAvul

For most teenagers, going to college is part of the American dream. But the cost of fulfilling that dream has become a source of controversy, as illegal immigrants sometimes pay less than U.S. citizens to attend the same college.

Illegal immigrants living in nine states can now attend public college at in-state tuition costs. But legal U.S. citizens still have to pay out-of-state tuition at schools outside of their home state. That price difference can be tens of thousands of dollars.

Many say it's discrimination if states offer a cheaper public college education to illegal immigrants, and some out-of-state American students are suing in federal and state courts. Others argue it's the best way to make sure immigrant students reach their potential.

"We'll be arguing it doesn't really matter if the U.S. citizens end up paying more or paying less but that they're being treated unequally," said Kris Kobach, co-counsel in lawsuits against tuition laws in Kansas and California. Kobach added that a 1996 federal law guiding this issue is "remarkably clear language for Congress — it makes it very clear you can't do this."

The federal Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 prohibits public colleges from favoring undocumented students by offering them in-state tuition rates and not extending that offer to U.S. citizens.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; crimigrants; deathofthewest; illegals; immigrants; instatetuition; invasion; perverseincentives
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To: LouAvul
The maroons running Utah just failed to repeal in-state tuition for illegals.

Then when you're filling out your state income tax return they expect you to volunteer how much you spent on purchases out of state so they can continue funding these kinds of programs. Sure I will.
21 posted on 03/05/2006 9:48:51 PM PST by utax
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To: utax

If Utah can't repeal this kind of law, we're all doomed.


22 posted on 03/05/2006 10:03:49 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: LouAvul
TIME TO ORGANIZE: If I were back in college, I'd organize a nationwide student revolt until this madness stops. EVERY STUDENT AT EVERY SCHOOL should be a participant, regardless of how many illegals are there.

Out-of-staters should only write a check/pay for the in-state tuition.

Out-of state tuition costs a certain percentage more than in-state tuition; therefore, in-staters should take the same percentage off of the in-state tuition and just send that.

Hit all the colleges and universities where it counts. They listen to that.

PS: I know it is more complicated (financial aid, scholarships, grants, threats of not getting cretids, etc.). Just brainstorming here.

23 posted on 03/05/2006 10:08:13 PM PST by MilesVeritatis (War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...." - John Stuart Mill)
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To: LouAvul
Yes, a full price tuition charge from preschool on.
24 posted on 03/05/2006 10:10:21 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LouAvul

Since when does mowing lawns, babysitting, construction laborer, fruit picker, etc. require a college degree?


25 posted on 03/05/2006 10:54:29 PM PST by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: ncountylee

Your right......................


26 posted on 03/05/2006 10:57:27 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: ncountylee

Your right......................


27 posted on 03/05/2006 10:57:30 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: OKIEDOC
I go to my state school already so it doesn't matter to me, but if got into a state school in one of these states that allows instate for illegal immigrants, I'd just say I was an illegal immigrant. What are they going to do check my SS number that I'm not supposed to have. If they asked where I came from I'll say Canada. Its a pretty good way to get free tuition. Hell maybe ill apply to grad school in California.
28 posted on 03/05/2006 11:10:51 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: RHINO369

I think you could say you left the US legally but snuck back in avoiding customs, thus you are here illegally.


29 posted on 03/06/2006 3:11:03 AM PST by FarmerW ("We have the freedoms we fight for, and we lose those we don't defend." -Rushdie)
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To: SealSeven
Since when does mowing lawns, babysitting, construction laborer, fruit picker, etc. require a college degree?

The illegals going to college aren't interested in such jobs. They are interested in becoming ACLU lawyers so they can sue citzens. Or ICE agents so they can let their favored types in or look the other way as the situation demands.

30 posted on 03/06/2006 3:18:01 AM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: LouAvul

Quit spending my f-ing money.


31 posted on 03/06/2006 3:26:12 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: RobbyS
"Convoluted Logic?"

To qualify for instate tuition, the illegal has to meet the same requirements as everybody else.

32 posted on 03/06/2006 4:52:13 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

It's an election year Now is a good time to e-mail your congress people's TODAY.


33 posted on 03/06/2006 5:03:14 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: RobbyS; charrisGOP; SunnyD1182; ByDesign; MissouriConservative; utax; CheyennePress; SealSeven; ...
...what kind of convoluted logic can justify this?

This kind:

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

34 posted on 03/06/2006 5:06:57 AM PST by raybbr
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To: ncountylee

Illegal aliens (all are criminals) should get no special perks. Instead, they should be prevented from getting any and deported pronto. They should not even be in this country, much less get a free ride at taxpayers expense. This is just perverted.


35 posted on 03/06/2006 5:07:40 AM PST by Dante3
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To: HiJinx
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


36 posted on 03/06/2006 8:04:17 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: LouAvul

What's the point of admitting them to college at all? The law says it's illegal to hire them, and companies that want a degree are going to be much more careful about checking their backgrounds. If all you can get is a blue-collar job where they aren't too picky about who they hire, why waste your time getting a college diploma? And more importantly, why waste taxpayer money?


37 posted on 03/06/2006 8:35:41 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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