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States Grapple With In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants
fox ^ | 3-4-06 | liza porteus

Posted on 03/05/2006 8:30:51 PM PST by LouAvul

For most teenagers, going to college is part of the American dream. But the cost of fulfilling that dream has become a source of controversy, as illegal immigrants sometimes pay less than U.S. citizens to attend the same college.

Illegal immigrants living in nine states can now attend public college at in-state tuition costs. But legal U.S. citizens still have to pay out-of-state tuition at schools outside of their home state. That price difference can be tens of thousands of dollars.

Many say it's discrimination if states offer a cheaper public college education to illegal immigrants, and some out-of-state American students are suing in federal and state courts. Others argue it's the best way to make sure immigrant students reach their potential.

"We'll be arguing it doesn't really matter if the U.S. citizens end up paying more or paying less but that they're being treated unequally," said Kris Kobach, co-counsel in lawsuits against tuition laws in Kansas and California. Kobach added that a 1996 federal law guiding this issue is "remarkably clear language for Congress — it makes it very clear you can't do this."

The federal Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 prohibits public colleges from favoring undocumented students by offering them in-state tuition rates and not extending that offer to U.S. citizens.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; crimigrants; deathofthewest; illegals; immigrants; instatetuition; invasion; perverseincentives
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1 posted on 03/05/2006 8:30:58 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

There is no reson for in-state tuition being offered illegal aliens that I will ever accept.


2 posted on 03/05/2006 8:34:12 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: LouAvul

Why can't they just get student loans like everyone else? Is there really a demand in the public to go forward with this? Have there been polls? Seriously, where do politicians come up with this nonsense?


3 posted on 03/05/2006 8:34:23 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle
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To: LouAvul
What on God's green earth is there to "grapple" with? My daughter would like to go to grad school in California, but she's a resident of Mississippi. She'd have to move here and live for a whole year to qualify. BUT...

ol' Miguel who sneaks in here without proper standing gets a break for being what?...illegal?....I guess there's a penalty for being American anymore.

4 posted on 03/05/2006 8:36:31 PM PST by stboz
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To: LouAvul

The idiot Tom Reilly who wants the governorship in Massachusetts is for in-state tuition for illegals.

He will lose a lot of votes because of this.


5 posted on 03/05/2006 8:37:44 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: LouAvul

All are asking: what kind of convoluted logic can justify this?


6 posted on 03/05/2006 8:38:31 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: stboz

Get a fellowship. Then they will wave the whole tuition cost.


7 posted on 03/05/2006 8:39:46 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: LouAvul

***Illegal immigrants*** = (LAW BREAKERS) living in nine states can now attend public college at in-state tuition costs.

I have nothing but self-righteous anger about this issue...


8 posted on 03/05/2006 8:46:15 PM PST by charrisGOP (The great mystery is not unanswered prayer; it’s unfinished prayer...)
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To: LouAvul

Now I can finally see a Just Cause for the ACLU to take on for citizens....


9 posted on 03/05/2006 8:46:24 PM PST by Jumper
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To: LouAvul
ok, just so I understand this correctly.

Instead of paying out of state tuition at a school outside of my state, I can simply renounce my citizenship, move to Mexico, become a Mexican citizen, and then come back as an illegal and then pay in state tuition instead?

The prospect of becoming an illegal Mexican immigrant is starting to have lots of perks. No payroll taxes, no income taxes, free healthcare in hospitals, free education for my kids, and now in state tuition. Screw being a US Citizen, illegal Mexican immigration is where it's at!

10 posted on 03/05/2006 8:46:28 PM PST by SunnyD1182
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To: LouAvul; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
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Anything for a buck. Drop tuition rates for a whole class of students, so more will attend - Ka-Cheeng.

11 posted on 03/05/2006 8:47:48 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
Why can't they just get student loans like everyone else?

Why can't they be deported? Come in legally if you want to go to school here.
12 posted on 03/05/2006 8:49:08 PM PST by Rastus
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To: SunnyD1182
You got it but there is one thing you forgot get prenant-and that goes for everyone who comes in or lives here.
13 posted on 03/05/2006 8:53:02 PM PST by fatima (Just say it if it is for love-have no regrets.)
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To: stboz

What other country can you sneak into, and pay LESS tuition to that countries college students, and on top of that, demand more classes taught in your native tongue? And get them?

The liberal, free-for-all mindset has destroyed all - they keep coming, and we keep paying, and paying, and paying. We cannot subsidize the entire world!

There is no justification that these people recieve one dime of tuition, period. Emergency health care is one thing, but a college education is NOT a right, no matter how much teh liberals demand it is, and it is not our job to educate them.

I was in the CA colleges in the late 80's and early 90's, and it was bad then, with severe overcrowding, and being a severe minority in a class of immigrants who slowed the classes down to being illiterate in English. (despite it being in the college's charter that one must have a working knowledge of English in both reading and writing to attend).

I was mad back then, and it looks like it's worse. It used to get my blood boiling that immigrants and such got PRIORITY in selecting classes, and us average suburban kids got the dregs.

Just like our hospitals, the CA college systems are being overwhelmed with illegals...but with the colleges, at least they get paid...and how often do you think the tuition is funded by state or Federal funds? It's well known to all students, even back in the 80's, that if you had a drop of Hispanic blood, you claimed it, to get virtually a free ride.

I swear, my life would be much better if I snuck across the US border, snuck back with a tan and dyed hair, and pretended not to speak English. I could get a fake ID, use someone else's SS to buy a house, get cheaper tuition (if not free), free health care, and if anyone hassles me, I can sue them and be awarded their property.

I hate to rant, and I'm sorry I feel this way, with the number of friends, family and coworkers who are from Mexico and South America who are vibrant, wonderful people, but I'm fed up - and many of them feel the same way! We have GOT to end this giveaway by liberals, who only do it to buy votes and sooth their tortured, blackened and guilty souls. We need to take care of our OWN, not illegals.


14 posted on 03/05/2006 8:53:15 PM PST by ByDesign
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To: LouAvul

Just doing the oogling of the girls, cheating on finals, and drinking kegs of beer that American college kids won't do.


15 posted on 03/05/2006 8:55:06 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: SunnyD1182
Screw being a US Citizen, illegal Mexican immigration is where it's at!

I wonder what kind of sh*tstorm we could start by putting our SSN's, Birth Certs, Passports, up for sale on e*Bay? I've been toying with trying it just for that reason.

16 posted on 03/05/2006 8:58:55 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows the rest of the world is damn near useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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To: LouAvul

Any politician who supports these type of bills needs to be publicly shamed and discredited.

Go to their campaign appearances and try to publicly ask them why they want to take college discounts away from U.S. citizens and give them to illegal aliens.

Ask them what they would say to an American citizen who can't go to college because an illegal alien took their discount.


17 posted on 03/05/2006 9:00:20 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: LouAvul

"Many say it's discrimination if states offer a cheaper public college education to illegal immigrants, and some out-of-state American students are suing in federal and state courts. Others argue it's the best way to make sure immigrant students reach their potential."

There is a switch there in those two sentences. I wonder if the writer is pushing an agenda? (I already know the answer). If you look at the first sentence, the words "illegal immigrants" appear. Then the second sentence says "immigran students".

Typical of the MSM....inject their biased opinions into "news".


18 posted on 03/05/2006 9:03:16 PM PST by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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To: LouAvul

If an illegal gets instate tuition then an out-of-State student should also. Make it one fee for all.


19 posted on 03/05/2006 9:07:30 PM PST by Chewbacca (Hell knows no fury than fiery habenaro Dorito's eaten before bedtime.)
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To: LouAvul

We have a really sweet deal going on near me, the school buses actually go to the Port of Entry and pick up Mexican children who walk across and take them to school here in the US. Until the last few years the buses went across the border and through the town in Mexico, then came back and took them to school. They decided there was liability in that and now just pick them up at the border. Amazing!! I don't pay taxes in that district, but can't imagine the taxpayers aren't yelling about the whole situation.

So...when people ask why illegals get to go to the University near here and get all kinds of perks, the U officials say well most of them have gone to school in the US their whole life an now deserve to go to college.

These children are not even illegals, they live in Mexico and still get the benefit of all the education, though we sure have our share of illegals too in our schools. Just can't figure out what people could possibly be thinking.


20 posted on 03/05/2006 9:14:30 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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