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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: cyborg
I'm not commenting on this much except to say that I come down on the side of Bush.

Sooner or later everyone has to make up their mind about who they will serve. Sorry to here about your decision, the unborn babies of rape and incest are too.

361 posted on 02/28/2006 7:43:19 PM PST by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: docbnj

The problem, of course, is that there won't be a huge backlog - every lower federal Court could strike down the laws and then the Supreme Court just has to deny cert. Worse case, if there's some conflict among the lower Court rulings, they take ONE case and fix it.


362 posted on 02/28/2006 7:43:21 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: eeevil conservative
You are an incredibly strong woman, with equally strong, commendable morals. My goodness.
363 posted on 02/28/2006 7:43:34 PM PST by jdm (I do not allow any liberal to swim, er, ride in my car.)
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To: madmominct

I AM ONE YOU NINNY!

WHO IS JUDGING NOW!?


364 posted on 02/28/2006 7:43:42 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: jwalsh07

I hope it's for golf in Hawaii or something. Take care.


365 posted on 02/28/2006 7:43:42 PM PST by Torie
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To: eeevil conservative

:sigh: I really didn't want to get into this but you say that to someone who is in real pain and don't be surprised when you get a nasty response. I used to HATE it when xtians would tell me that BS and I still think most of the syrupy junk they say in church is BS. No need to sugarcoat things in my opinion. If I decided to give up such a child for adoption, I certainly don't want people patting me on the back for what I did. It's a personal decision and righteousness has nothing to do with it. I don't think I could have an abortion EVER not even for rape.


366 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:04 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: IrishRainy
Less than 4% of abortions are done as a result of rape or incest.

less that that. Women are given birth control at the hospital to prevent pregnancy after rape. I used to work at EMS. Most of the "I was raped" victims refused to press charges against the rapists but they wanted a free abortion. It was a ruse.

367 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:27 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: jwalsh07

Good post.


368 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:31 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: SwordofTruth

You have your opinion and I have mine.


369 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:35 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: cgk; cpforlife.org; Coleus; Mr. Silverback; wagglebee

ping


370 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:40 PM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: jveritas
I am against abortion except for rape and insect.

Me too. We should turn them over to the Orkin Man.

371 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Howlin

I know... I know what you were saying... We are on the same team... sorry if I did not make it clear that I knew what you were saying...


372 posted on 02/28/2006 7:44:54 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: frankiep

I'd rather talk about THE SHIELD, than what we're talking about now. I, too, watched the first three seasons on DVD. Best way to watch a show like this. This season is REALLY good...actually, I think it's better than the third season. We tivo 2 episodes and then watch them back to back without commercial interruption. The Shield, is the best drama on TV ... EVER.


373 posted on 02/28/2006 7:45:17 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I'm an absolutist on this too, but I knew the President was not, before I voted for him. I'm not sure it's quite logical to be an absolutist about pro-life, and yet vote for someone who isn't...but there you go.
You other absolutists, did you vote for him? How could you?


374 posted on 02/28/2006 7:46:18 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: jdm

not really.. I am just a woman that understands what being a victim is... and wish it on NO ONE... especially my own child....

God is my strength.. He gave me what I needed when I looked to HIM instead of man or myself....


375 posted on 02/28/2006 7:46:18 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: Howlin

NO, just kind of disappointed.


376 posted on 02/28/2006 7:46:23 PM PST by boomop1
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To: jveritas

Ronald Maximus Reagan agreed with you.


377 posted on 02/28/2006 7:46:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: AppyPappy
OK and if she wishes to kill her child because it is a result of rape, that is OK, right?

Her child? Why is it her child? She didn't consent to it's creation.

378 posted on 02/28/2006 7:46:27 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: jecIIny
I would be very happy with a law that limits abortions to cases of rape and incest or life threats to the mother. It would eliminate 97% of abortions at a stroke. As Ronald Reagan said, its better to get half what you want now and work for the rest later, then nothing at all.

Of course! Where did I say otherwise? I was responding to a cowardly lack of principle, not the kind of practical compromise that's admittedly necessary to get a law passed.

379 posted on 02/28/2006 7:46:31 PM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
And some of those who give in to the abortionist describe the experience as being raped all over again.

And, most of them don't. They're just the ones who don't go around talking about it all the time. That's the majority, believe me.

380 posted on 02/28/2006 7:47:03 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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