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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: builder
How can so many people here hate him so, on this issue?

Don't kid yourself; they hate him on EVERY issue.

301 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:02 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Petronski; Hildy; Peach

I'm not commenting on this much except to say that I come down on the side of Bush.


302 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:15 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Howlin

love your tagline btw....

:-)


303 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:26 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: Peach

It's only on this board that I hear people think they aren't reasonable exceptions. In real life, I've never met a person who thought the way these barbarians are thinking. Even in the Baptist churches down here, these are exceptions which are acceptable.

So people who think that ALL unborn children have a right to life are barbarians? That is disgusting. You either think that killing an unborn baby is murder, or you don't. There is no middle ground when it comes to right to life.

304 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:36 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Luke21

exactly


305 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:39 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: eeevil conservative
"out troops serve for MONTHS... FOR YEARS,.... to make our life better.... but somehow... a woman is supposed to be free of all pain....so that murder and death can prevail....sad, really.... very sad..."

Excellent. You have a VERY good head on your shoulders.
306 posted on 02/28/2006 7:33:49 PM PST by jdm (I do not allow any liberal to swim, er, ride in my car.)
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To: Luke21

Good post


307 posted on 02/28/2006 7:34:24 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: AppyPappy

And the woman isn't repsonsible either. As another man just said on this board, you just think being pregnant is an INCONVIENCE. That says it all. And you'll never understand. Sorry. How come all your compassion is towards a fetus and not towards a living, breathing woman WHO HAS BEEN VIOLENTLY RAPED. Makes one wonder.


308 posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:06 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Luke21
This has always been the president's position, and it has been an easily defensible one for the pro-life movement. Arguing about an infinitismal amount of abortions distracts us from potential victories over abortion on demand and partial birth abortion. Good grief, people. We are winning.

Exactly. BTTT.

309 posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:07 PM PST by M203M4
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To: jdm

shhhhhhhh!

don't let that get out.. my rep will be RUINED!


310 posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:14 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: oolatec
Imagine looking into the eyes of your child and reliving that moment... over and over again.

Women do not look in the eyes of their child and see the act that created them. If the woman bonded enough to her child to not put it up for adoption then she will not spend her life seeing the act of rape, she will see her baby.

And no woman is forced to raise a child that she cannot bond with. She has options once the child is born.

311 posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:36 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: cgk

I was saying that preventing the morning after pill would end in the dealth of aborted babies. BEcause abortion is still legal, some who can't get the morning after pill, which I say again works JUST LIKE REGULAR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS, end up aborting their baby. The morning after pill prevents abortion.


312 posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:51 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: prairiebreeze
Luckily for me and the country President Bush will be President until January 2009.

Yes, I imagine you Chinese are very happy about that.

313 posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:51 PM PST by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: Hildy

Ok, so you are saying that any child that results from rape is deserving of death, right?


314 posted on 02/28/2006 7:36:15 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
They overplayed the case before the court.

Had they gone for no abortion, except for rape, incest or proved health risk to the mother...
This court might have gone for it.

I think this wasn't the way to go.

Save the 99.95% and fight one at a time for the rest.
Instead they overshot and will lose it all IMO.
315 posted on 02/28/2006 7:36:27 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RHINO369

You do realize that I wholeheartedly agree with you, right?


316 posted on 02/28/2006 7:36:43 PM PST by frankiep
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To: SwordofTruth

Well that made all sorts of sense. Not.


317 posted on 02/28/2006 7:37:11 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: frankiep

Have you never heard of "justifiable homicide"? That is NOT "murder" no matter what you may think.


318 posted on 02/28/2006 7:37:23 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: frankiep

But in real life there's middle ground. And there always will be. That's the way it is. Because the majority of people in the USA believe the way I and President Bush do.


319 posted on 02/28/2006 7:37:23 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Luke21
We are winning. We will be fighting over Coke versus Pepsi next

Excellent post. See my post #195.

320 posted on 02/28/2006 7:37:23 PM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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