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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: builder
How can so many people here hate him so, on this issue?

They don't hate him over this. They hate him for simply existing. This is just another excuse.

201 posted on 02/28/2006 7:18:01 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Pat Buchanan lost a family member in the holocaust. The man fell out of a guard tower.)
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To: Hildy
I'm sorry, I know how alot of you feel, but to make a woman carry a baby conceived from rape is so incredibly wrong.

So is killing an innocent baby. What ever happened to "two incredibly wrongs" don't make a right?
202 posted on 02/28/2006 7:18:11 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: MikefromOhio

It's 24/7 Bash Bush now on FR. When this dies down, there will be something else. And that they have to lie to try and make their point is very telling.


203 posted on 02/28/2006 7:18:18 PM PST by Peach
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To: zarf

personally, I agree 100% with the president on this one.

Although I can easily see the dubious "life of mother arguments" that will no doubt arise. I'd also expect to see an increase of "but I was raped in my sleep" claims.
Fine, let's investigate...
I'm willing to grant that possibility in order to eliminate the "I just don't feel like having a child today" abortions.

For me it has a lot to do with personal responsibility. If you were willing to have sex, then you are dang sure responsible for your actions.

That said, there is no way I would ever force an unwilling incest victim or rape victim to carry a child forced on them. That IS Taliban mentality.

though I'll surely be called un-Christian by our "Holier Than Jesus" crowd.


204 posted on 02/28/2006 7:18:24 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: clawrence3
The art of poltics, unfortunately, is compromise - we "accept" a certain number of traffic fatalities every year as a society - more than would ever be aborted from rape and incest.

Of course, and that's why I'd support a law that bans abortion in every case other than rape and incest. Philosophically, of course, I would oppose these exceptions, but I think the pro-life movement should take what it can get.

Incrimentalism has been pretty effective a strategy thus far. I am convinced within my lifetime Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and there will be several states with laws as strict as South Dakota's. But I realize that now is not the time.

205 posted on 02/28/2006 7:18:25 PM PST by curiosity
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To: jwalsh07
It would be smarter to get the majority of folks who agree on what can be cut back NOW, along with dumping the horrific legal excrescence Roe, and even more so, its Rosemary Baby progeny, to do THAT. AFTER that is done, THEN we can go after each other with whips and chains. All things have their season. :)
206 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:04 PM PST by Torie
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To: eeevil conservative
and my youngest child was

Was what, a child of incest and/or rape?

207 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:10 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: builder

Many/most of the people claiming to hate Bush on this issue, hate him on every other issue as well.


208 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:16 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: notigar

$ 1000 for each White House position :)


209 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:16 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Hildy

Quote "I'm sorry, I know how alot of you feel, but to make a woman carry a baby conceived from rape is so incredibly wrong."

The stupidity of comments these days on Freepers.

DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT THE MURDER OF A LITTLE BABY IS INCREDIBLY WRONG???????????//

Guess not


210 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:29 PM PST by silentknight
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To: Hildy; Peach
"How much you wanna bet we're the only women on this board?"

You might be, but some of us guys are here with you.
211 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:35 PM PST by ndt
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To: Peach

This has been his stand from day one. Nothing new.


212 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:38 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: muleskinner
Carried to term.....

no skin off my nose at all....

MY HEART!


213 posted on 02/28/2006 7:19:43 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: muleskinner

YES


214 posted on 02/28/2006 7:20:15 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: frankiep

Either you think a fetus has the right to live as a person, or as property of the mother. You can't be both. Whats the difference if the mother was raped or if the mother was 17 and stupid. I could argue a 17 year old with a child would screw up her life and the childs life much more than a 30 year old who has a child of rape who is immediatly adopted.


215 posted on 02/28/2006 7:20:21 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Peach

Forcing a young child who has been sexually assaulted to bring the child to term is barbaric.


216 posted on 02/28/2006 7:20:26 PM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: ndt

Thank you!


217 posted on 02/28/2006 7:20:26 PM PST by Peach
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To: eeevil conservative

Check out the grin! What a cutie.


218 posted on 02/28/2006 7:21:07 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
though I'll surely be called un-Christian by our "Holier Than Jesus" crowd.

No, you're just being illogical. Either an unborn baby is a human being with a right to life or not. If yes, then there is no justification for allowing abortion in cases of rape. If no, then there is no basis for banning any abortion.

219 posted on 02/28/2006 7:21:10 PM PST by curiosity
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To: zarf

Definitely barbaric. And conservatives will lose ALL support on this issue if they push it without those exceptions.


220 posted on 02/28/2006 7:21:10 PM PST by Peach
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