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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: Peach
So nice of the freepers on this thread who are pretending the president must be drinking or something.

I agree that was completely uncalled for.

181 posted on 02/28/2006 7:14:38 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I agree with Bush on the exceptions. But whether one agrees with him or not - it's at least refreshing to see a politician have a consistent stand on that issue and not have their position blowing in the wind over time.


182 posted on 02/28/2006 7:14:45 PM PST by plain talk
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To: The Worthless Miracle
"Is there really an epidemic of people being impregnated by incestual sex?"

Not an epidemic, but a few.

Just think we wouldn't have Jack Nicholson, had he been aborted by his sister/mother.

183 posted on 02/28/2006 7:14:54 PM PST by auggy ( http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML)
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To: Peach
Hon, you're so out there we have nothing to discuss.

Oh? Please elaborate. What is so "out there" about my opinions?

184 posted on 02/28/2006 7:14:58 PM PST by curiosity
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To: prairiebreeze
You do nothing but bash the President on practically every thread I see you post on.

Get use to it; your hero has run off the reservation.
185 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:05 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Most folks who have been around here know where I stand on abortion. I'm pro life from conception on.

But President Bush is not. He thinks there should be exceptions for rape and incest. Those two combined account for less than 0.5% of abortions in this country.

I don't believe that visting the sins of the father, or mother for that case, is good policy. I understand others have different views. But Bush's views here have been the same since I I heard him speak in the Hartford airport whne he was campaigning for the republican nomination the first time around.

Bush is, if nothing else, a man of his word be it on immigration, abortion or the WOT. And while we don't always agree I knew where he stood before I pulled the lever both times, three times if you count that primary.

186 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:09 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: MNJohnnie

My God!!!!

Bush said this...but this is NOT about Bush. It is about innocent children. Picking and choosing which ones can be killed and which ones can't is wrong on all accounts. It's life and death stuff and is bigger than Bush.


187 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:15 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Aussie Dasher

I made a comment about national public opinion as well. Obviously views vary across this pocket and that on the fruited plain.


188 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:24 PM PST by Torie
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To: Hildy
I'm sorry, I know how alot of you feel, but to make a woman carry a baby conceived from rape is so incredibly wrong.

No, to rape a woman is "incredibly wrong". To not execute a rapist is "incredibly wrong". And...

...to slaughter a child, because of who/what his father is or did is INCREDIBLY WRONG. We are more than just a memorial to our parents. We are all of us, even the bastards, created in the image of God and we glorify his goodness, grace and mercy.

Rob Roy: "It's not the child that needs killin"

189 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:24 PM PST by Theophilus (Abortion = Child Sacrifice)
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To: muleskinner

I am a woman... and my youngest child was....

anyway DON'T GO THERE.. YOU ARE WRONG!


190 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:26 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Maybe it's disingenuous to you, but it's not to me.


191 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:42 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: muleskinner

Well, wait a second - no one said it's a wonderful thing.


192 posted on 02/28/2006 7:15:51 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: ARCADIA
Get use to it; your hero has run off the reservation.

Peddle it somewhere else. This has been the president's position since he was running for the presidency.

193 posted on 02/28/2006 7:16:10 PM PST by Peach
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To: Aussie Dasher
I could be wrong, but President Bush seems to be going out of his way to antagonize his base this past week or so...

I guess you haven't been paying much attention since January 20, 2001.

194 posted on 02/28/2006 7:16:27 PM PST by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Many Freepers as well as the general public will disagree with Bush's stance on this issue.

But the anger at him on this issue mystifies me.He has been consistent on this issue.He has done more than any president to restrict abortion.He has battled hard to appoint what we believe are two pro-life Justices.He has pushed Congress harder than any president on late term abortion prohibitions.

He has spoken constantly about his belief that abortion is wrong.He has taken the slings and arrows and walked the tough road.

How can so many people here hate him so, on this issue?

195 posted on 02/28/2006 7:16:32 PM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: cgk; Peach

Yes, totally uncalled for. I saw that too. Demonstrates a very weak poster.


196 posted on 02/28/2006 7:16:37 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: Hildy

oh- so what then.. only women are capable of determining if an unborn child is a life or not?

PAHLEEEZE!


197 posted on 02/28/2006 7:16:48 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: Peach
I can see this thread is going to be ugly as hell.

I'm afraid that is probably putting it mildly.....since the ports furor has died down considerably, someone needs to find something to scream about......
198 posted on 02/28/2006 7:16:53 PM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: ARCADIA

What does DNA testing have to do with killing a baby?


199 posted on 02/28/2006 7:17:03 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Aussie Dasher
I could be wrong, but President Bush seems to be going out of his way to antagonize his base this past week or so...

You mean the 2 or 3% that scream the loudest?

200 posted on 02/28/2006 7:17:58 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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