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Utah House kills evolution bill
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 28 February 2006 | JENNIFER DOBNER

Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry

House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.

The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.

But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.

Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.

"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"

Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.

"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.

Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.

Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.

But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: biofraud; crevolist; scienceeducation
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To: Mamzelle
...instead of trying to limit discussion on FR--why not start your own blog?

But the WORLD needs the benefit of our superior intellect and reasoning, and FR is the best place to display it!

--EvoDude

981 posted on 03/01/2006 12:12:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: balrog666

I'm willing to post to people who are actively making fools of themselves. It is somewhat stunning to find creationists who don't understand elementary sex.


982 posted on 03/01/2006 12:12:24 PM PST by js1138
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To: PatrickHenry
the- most- screamingly- funny- thread -ever

marker

983 posted on 03/01/2006 12:13:02 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: js1138; Mamzelle; Junior
Ignore the content of a "text" and concentrate on discrediting the motives of the authors.

I think you mention this for Junior....

984 posted on 03/01/2006 12:13:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: js1138

meant!


985 posted on 03/01/2006 12:13:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: js1138
It is somewhat stunning to find creationists who don't understand elementary sex.

Yet they want to determine what is and isn't science.

Dark ages here we come...

986 posted on 03/01/2006 12:14:06 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla
Spamming the thread with random bible verses is "discussion" now?

RANDOM?

It's obvious that you, too, don't read them.

Your loss.

987 posted on 03/01/2006 12:15:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry
That's from the bad side of the family.

But, no doubt, one real cool dude!! ;^)

988 posted on 03/01/2006 12:15:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
Why do you think they should???

If all male humans are descended from Noah, where did the variation come from? The Y chromosome is the clearest and most unambiguous indicator of lineage. Except for mutations, which are rare, there are no changes or recombinations from father to son. Even the mutations are helpful in tracing linege, since they are inherited.

Not knowing this is one of the downsides of skipping sex-ed.

989 posted on 03/01/2006 12:16:25 PM PST by js1138
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To: ToryHeartland
"in great contests, each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be wrong.

He left out the fact that just maybe, one of them is TRUE!

990 posted on 03/01/2006 12:17:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Mamzelle
If you've noticed, I have no plan to attempt to reconcile you to the Bible.

Now go read my home page.....

991 posted on 03/01/2006 12:18:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
It's obvious that you, too, don't read them.

They have no relevance to science or evolution.

992 posted on 03/01/2006 12:20:30 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: phantomworker
Elsie, if you weren't a troll, I would tell you!

It doesn’t matter what other people think or feel or say.

993 posted on 03/01/2006 12:20:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Mamzelle

Paranoia will destroy ya.


994 posted on 03/01/2006 12:21:01 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: b_sharp
Will my going to these websites introduce me to Mr. Link?

Missing is his first name I believe.


Noah or Proto-ape/man, the Y thing should have the same result; right?

995 posted on 03/01/2006 12:23:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Mamzelle

beano is good for that condition


996 posted on 03/01/2006 12:24:24 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: higgmeister

"Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"


997 posted on 03/01/2006 12:24:46 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: js1138
It is somewhat stunning to find creationists who don't understand elementary sex.

That's because, unlike you Evo's, WE waited 'til HIGH-SCHOOL!

998 posted on 03/01/2006 12:25:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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Maybe ...


999 posted on 03/01/2006 12:25:47 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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1,000


1,000 posted on 03/01/2006 12:25:49 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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