Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
Where have you been?
Leading a USEFUL life instead of wasting it away here on these life-sucking threads? ;^)
Actually late middle-aged women.
Spurious and has nothing to do with the subject. What do they say in court? Have to ask Marlowe, objection sustained?
Bang!
(A Cheney joke.)
LOL...very good.
They have pills for that now...
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Well, actually I was comparing theologies, but if that makes you happy, carry on
No, WE were comparing "eyewitness accounts." Or, are you into moving the goalposts?
Speaking from experience?
LOL. Well just beware of what happened to the tribes in the desert when they clamored for meat when milk was on the table!
And I have answered your question
Is not Christ incarnate? Did God not know and see Christ as incarnate from all eternity?
NIV 1 Peter 1:17-21
17. Since you call on a Father who judges each man's work impartially, live your lives as strangers here in reverent fear.
18. For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,
19. but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.
20. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
21. Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.
NIV 1 Corinthians 2:7
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
NIV 2 Timothy 1:8-10
8. So do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God,
9. who has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,
10. but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.
NIV Titus 1:1-4
1. Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ for the faith of God's elect and the knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness--
2. a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,
3. and at his appointed season he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior,
4. To Titus, my true son in our common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.
"Spurious and has nothing to do with the subject."
Fine. You pretend that you didn't make a statement that you couldn't back up, and I will continue to point out that you are veracity-challenged.
"What do they say in court? Have to ask Marlowe, objection sustained?"
Yes, they would say (since it was MY objection) "Objection sustained," and they would further say "and the court fines zeeba neighba one day's attorney fees for frivolous argument."
I also have quite a bit of RAM in my casing, too.
"Leading a USEFUL life instead of wasting it away here on these life-sucking threads? ;^)"
Having 3 yr old twins will do that to ya!!
Well zeeba doesn't go down your little rat holes, stick to the matter at hand
No you haven't. You went from comparing the validity of eyewitness accounts to comparing theologies. The two are not synonymous.
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