Here say. There say! There castle!
Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
Absolutely incorrect. The people of the world were the jury and the jury voted, and are still voting. Believe it or not, they still can.
Do you not agree with them?
How do you scientifically explain the alleged fish to land mammal transition/evolution but be it, in part, for HOX gene mutations (fins to arms and legs with digits)?
Dr. Schwabe's, the Medical University of South Carolina, Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, six year study on the issue indicates that there is no evidence to support this HOX gene mutation hypothesis. Why is it widely repeated...even in the face of scientific evidence to the contrary?
Natural History museums and scientific publications (even talk.origins) state that Sinosauropteryx was a feathered dinosaur and yet the scientific evidence says that there was no feathers (Oct 10, 2005, Journal of Morphology, which states: "This isn't science...This is comic relief").
And are you saying that the TOE can't be explained/demonstrated, by anyone today (single cell to observeable life today) without making any assumed conclusions?
What are you asking?
A goodly portion of the people of the world believe aliens have visited the Earth, and I personally know many people who think Elvis is still alive. Do their "votes" make any of this true?
Yes.
"Absolutely incorrect. The people of the world were the jury and the jury voted, and are still voting."
And it looks like the appellate court in Mecca just issued an injunction demanding that you be stoned to death as an infidel dog. Still willing to continue in that jurisdiction?
I asked you for a specific case citation, because you stated that it had been accepted as eyewitness testimony in a court of law. In other words, you made a claim. I asked you to back up that claim. You punted.
"Believe it or not, they still can."
And, in the ancient tradition of "my God can beat up your God, they are, and Christianity is losing to a bunch of infidel-beheading nutballs.
Rubber room mates?
I'm sorry. I don't understand. What was your point?
Is it a virtual memory? (Stupid computer joke.)
"Absolutely incorrect. The people of the world were the jury and the jury voted, and are still voting. Believe it or not, they still can."
If you want to go that route, most people have voted no.
However, historians have lately taken an interest in indian accounts from the Indian wars, and I have read some concerning The Battle of the Little Bighorn. Though told years later to white people who wrote them down and now being published under other white people's names, I see no reason to discount them as history. The same goes for the slaves accounts of life on plantations. They had little reason to lie, sometimes their lives were still in jeopardy and they certainly probably never gained from it.
Objection! Hearsay!
So the interpretation of Genesis is a salvational issue now? Would St. Augustine, despite his acceptance of Jesus as his Savior, be in hell because he argued that Genesis was compatible with the secular science (philosophy) of his day?
Well over the course of the centuries, enough voted yes to take it world wide, and it's still going strong.
Now I'm with you...My hard drive is a little slow.
Here say. There say! There castle!
I was just trying to be nice for the creationist and the ID'ers. I'm not one of these 'everything scientific sucks' crowd.
"Well over the course of the centuries, enough voted yes to take it world wide, and it's still going strong."
Yes, Islam is growing fast. Oh, you didn't mean Islam? :)
I guess you WOULD know that!!!
Not even close:
Hopi Creation Story
Iroquois Creation Story
Spider Women and Giant Turtles != Judeo-Christian...
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