Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
That does look interesting. I'd be curious to find out more.
Actually the deluge explains many of those things well, but not all of them. Fossils are primarily sedimentary. If you want to make a fossil you've got to have lots of water and lots of soil. You need to capture the critter while it's alive; bury it alive under soil and water. The water, over several generations seeps down into the earth, leaving cavity that displays the image of what was a living creature suddenly buried alive. Again, the deepest holes we've ever drilled have revealed much more water than was expected at those levels.
Rather than a scathing, brilliant and absolutely devestating response, I am going to go watch a movie before bed (between the toes if necessary).
We'll contend again on the morrow.
Night all!
Thanks for finding it. I must have missed it because of my penchant for skipping over the posts of complete idiots.
How did the new species come into being since the flood?
I read your link.
The person to whom you refer does not make mention of "a sort of calcified concrete mixture" that "shot up from below." He believes hot waters from below had the effect of creating the greater part of what we call the fossil record, and in so stating makes use of the word "cementation" in connection with the release of carbonates. This may be an assertion worthy of question, but it does not merit the misrepresentation and petulant carping that tends to shoot up from below your keyboard.
I have this great mental image of a platypus paddling Noah-ward with a kiwi on its back.
thought I'd share.
The genetic material for all present species, except for those not needed or desired prior to the world wide deluge, would be sufficient in those creatures aboard the ark to generate such diversity.
If one cares to take things down to the level of basic elements,everything has always been present to produce whatever species one might desire, and do so within whatever limits one might wish. But there are always limits. There are always rules. That's how it is with intelligent design.
I had that same image, and they were traveling the straightest distance between two short lines.
Yep. As I said, I am not smart enough to do the math, but neither am I dumb enough to accept the word "impossible" as applicable to generating six billion people from eight. Yet even doing it my own stupid, simple way it doesn't take a lot of multiplication, does it?
In that case, since I had it first, you owe me royalties.
"I had that same image, and they were traveling the straightest distance between two short lines."
Funny. I had a totally different image. In the 5th dimension, tesseract, the shortest distance is not between two straight lines.
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/wrinkle/section5.rhtml
That's actually quite an original image. LOL!
Your position is that new species appeared after the flood, and that these new species were intelligently designed by God using existing genetic material. Fair statement?
That's one explanation: see the map here
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