Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
You need to break out of the mode you're in.
Answered my own question. Here:
Y-chromosomal Aaron - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Aaron
Neat stuff.
Ya'd think the CR/IDs would be all over this.
I believe there is a population of Jews who are descended from a common ancestor in historical times. I don't know the details, but it would not be surprising in a small population that restricts marriage outside the religion.
The possibility that members of a small religious sect which prohibits marriage outside the sect would all be related is not particularly interesting.
The claim that going back another thousand years would make all human males share descent from a single male -- that would be interesting if the data supported it.
Pondering...
Maybe they're not all over it because it sorta dis-proves their thesis.
A Moses type person was quite possible at around the presumed date.
If one accepts that, though, all the other Y chromosome variants in other folk argues against Noah being the originator of modern Y.
So, you get either Moses or Noah, but not both.
I'm overdue for a caffeine fix, so this may be way off.
The same kind of evidence that supports the common descent of the Kohens fails to support all men having a common ancestor at the time of Noah. It's a case where reasonable speculation is supported by evidence and silly speculation is not supported.
I got a good one today.
The claim that going back another thousand years would make all human males share descent from a single male -- that would be interesting if the data supported it?
I got a good one today: Check your cache before you cash your check on that data.;) LOL!
You know, I thought I got that one, but I didn't. How does the mathematician say the house is empty? Is it a negative number or something or I am overthinking it? LOL
(I did make that one up about the cache btw.)
My godfather's name is Noah, and he was never peer reviewed.
Of course, he fled the country decades ago under an assumed name...
OK! Now I get it! Thanks! LOLOL!!
Making a Noah Count posting.
What good is sitting alone in your room?
Come hear the music play.
Life is a Cabaret, old chum,
Come to the Cabaret.
Put down the knitting,
The book and the broom.
Time for a holiday.
Life is Cabaret, old chum,
Come to the Cabaret.
Come taste the wine,
Come hear the band.
Come blow your horn,
Start celebrating;
Right this way,
Your table's waiting
No use permitting
soem prophet of doom
To wipe every smile away.
Come hear the music play.
Life is a Cabaret, old chum,
Come to the Cabaret!
I used to have a girlfriend
known as Elsie
With whom I shared
Four sordid rooms in Chelsea
She wasn't what you'd call
A blushing flower...
As a matter of fact
She rented by the hour.
The day she died the neighbors
came to snicker:
"Well, thats what comes
from to much pills and liquor."
But when I saw her laid out like a Queen
She was the happiest...corpse...
I'd ever seen.
I think of Elsie to this very day.
I'd remember how'd she turn to me and say:
"What good is sitting alone in your room?
Come hear the music play.
Life is a Cabaret, old chum,
Come to the Cabaret."
And as for me,
I made up my mind back in Chelsea,
When I go, I'm going like Elsie.
Start by admitting
From cradle to tomb
Isn't that long a stay.
Life is a Cabaret, old chum,
Only a Cabaret, old chum,
And I love a Cabaret!
The only things in the middle of the road in Texas are white stripes and dead skunks.
-- Apologies to Dorothy Fields
Sure it does. The physical evidence is spread throughout the earth's surface, and it is a stark recrod of death, possibly sudden death in many cases. It also reflects conditions, albeit on a wider scale, where we have observed catastrophic events in our own day.
I tend to consider the generations denoted in the biblical texts less as a point-for-point detailed rendition of each and every generation than as benchmark generations. Again, the point is that the biblical texts accurately reflect history, only not in every detail. Nor should we expect as much since that is not their purpose. Hence I leave flexible the exact amount of time since the heavens and the earth were created, as well as the amojt of time that transpired from the flood until the account of the Tower of Babel. Nevertheless I am sure I would be regarded as a young earth creationist.
In the end, the deluge cannot explain these things, no matter how much you wish it to.
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