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Meathead Economics (California's Rob Reiner-induced population loss)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 28, 2006

Posted on 02/27/2006 11:02:52 PM PST by presidio9

It takes hard work to drive anyone away from California's sunshine and scenic vistas, but politicians in Sacramento have been up to the task.

The latest Census Bureau data indicate that, in 2005, 239,416 more native-born Americans left the state than moved in. California is also on pace to lose domestic population (not counting immigrants) this year. The outmigration is such that the cost to rent a U-Haul trailer to move from Los Angeles to Boise, Idaho, is $2,090 -- or some eight times more than the cost of moving in the opposite direction.

What's gone wrong? A big part of the story is a tax and regulatory culture that treats the most productive businesses and workers as if they were ATM machines. The cost to businesses of complying with California's rules, regulations and paperwork is more than twice as high as in other Western states.

But the worst growth killer may well be California's tax system. The business tax rate of 8.8% is the highest in the West, and its steeply "progressive" personal income tax has an effective top marginal rate of 10.3%, or second highest in the nation. CalTax, the state's taxpayer advocacy group, reports that the richest 10% of earners pay almost 75% of the entire income-tax revenue in the state, and most of these are small business owners, i.e., the people who create jobs.

And things may soon get worse, thanks to Rob Reiner, who played the liberal "Meathead" on the "All in the Family" sitcom in the 1970s and now plays the same part in real life. He and his rich Hollywood friends have put an initiative on the state's June ballot that would add a 1.7-percentage-point income-tax surcharge on "millionaires" with income over $400,000, with the proceeds earmarked for universal pre-school.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: caleconomy; caltaxes; first5; meathead; meatheadtax; prop82; reiner; robreiner; schwarzenegger; taxes
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1 posted on 02/27/2006 11:02:54 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

STIFLE!


2 posted on 02/27/2006 11:07:34 PM PST by Dallas59 ((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
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To: presidio9
"What's gone wrong? A big part of the story is a tax and regulatory culture that treats the most productive businesses and workers as if they were ATM machines."

Well, if Bustamonte had gotten his way, there would be even higher tax rates than these.

"Tough love," doncha know.

(Snort!!)

3 posted on 02/27/2006 11:08:19 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: presidio9

Except for Ohio, those are all blue states.


4 posted on 02/27/2006 11:08:21 PM PST by I still care ("For it is the doom of men that they forget". - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: presidio9

Watch all the REGISTERED residence go to Neveda.


5 posted on 02/27/2006 11:10:26 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: nightdriver
"Well, if Bustamonte had gotten his way, there would be even higher tax rates than these."

He's the first sign of a 'Mexican' government in America; where the economy works like magic, and can do anything one wishes.

6 posted on 02/27/2006 11:12:43 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: I still care

And aren't they all richer than average?


7 posted on 02/27/2006 11:15:02 PM PST by Hong Kong Expat
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Stop Rob Reiner

8 posted on 02/27/2006 11:15:53 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (No on Meathead's "Preschool for All" Prop 82.)
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To: presidio9
Oh great, that means the liberal socialist have destroyed California and are now moving out. They will be bringing their whacked out environmentalist religion, there rainbow flags, and their screwed up kids to my state and will eventually destroy it too.
9 posted on 02/27/2006 11:16:02 PM PST by avant_garde
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To: Dallas59

In your heart, didn't you know Archie was right all along?
(Even though Norman Lear thought the liberal foil of Mike Stivic was the one who the audience would identify with?)
Thanks to Carroll O'Connor for creating a more believable character than Rob Reiner, and to Norman Lear for being such a fudge-brained Lib that he would wind up HELPING the Conservative cause.


10 posted on 02/27/2006 11:34:56 PM PST by willyboyishere (You'd better begin living the way you think, or you'll soon be thinking the way you live> Brecht)
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To: presidio9
You are welcome in Nevada, but you will have to adjust to no income tax, road/highway condition ranked in the top 10 of all states and very few political advertisements on TV. Our legislature only meets for 4 months--every other year.

Also, having lots of experience with K-12 public schools in California and Nevada, Nevada's average school is now far better than the average in California. That may be due more to California's decline, but it is the case.

We have our meatheads, but for the most part no one takes them seriously. Even Harry (will you hire my relative) Reid, never had the guts to suggest an income tax in Nevada.
11 posted on 02/27/2006 11:35:11 PM PST by gleneagle
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To: presidio9
I moved from San Diego to Pocatello. Much lower cost of living across the board. My gross income has continued upward and my net is much better. The principal residence is free and clear and I have sufficient disposable income to cover a second residence that will be converted to rental/income property.

Some people worry that if they sell their house in California, they won't ever be able to afford to return. Who would want to return? It's the best decision I've made in the last 10 years.

12 posted on 02/27/2006 11:43:54 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: avant_garde
Oh great, that means the liberal socialist have destroyed California and are now moving out. They will be bringing their whacked out environmentalist religion, there rainbow flags, and their screwed up kids to my state and will eventually destroy it too.

Some of that behavior already happened to Washington state. It is happening around Boise, ID too. That's why I moved to Pocatello in the southeast corner. Too much traffic and lefties in the Boise area.

13 posted on 02/27/2006 11:45:42 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: gleneagle

Thought it was...Harry (you will hire my relative) Reid.


14 posted on 02/27/2006 11:54:56 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Rick_Michael

Easy, I don't think its fair to reference his ethnicity- he'd be for higher taxes and more regulation if his name was, oh, Davis.

I make that point (to not single out a Mexican-American liberal) because I think the critical issue is avoided by the article's discussing the population loss of "native born citizens". California's population is growing, but the growth is among illegal aliens (and their American born children).

Controlling that flow of illegal aliens is critical to getting California's health, education and infrastructure spending in line (and reducing the insatiable demand for higher taxes). However, any steps in this direction has to be done in a way Mexican-Americans understand is not motivated by ethnic bias.


15 posted on 02/27/2006 11:59:24 PM PST by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: presidio9
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"Meathead" Reiner
16 posted on 02/28/2006 12:17:02 AM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: presidio9
Unlike the Wall Street Journal, I'd vote for the tax. The millionaires here are liberals, not friends of the free market. They want to take away my property tax break and I don't see why as as a little guy I should preserve an exemption just for them.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

17 posted on 02/28/2006 12:32:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: presidio9

I heard that Meathead was implicated in huge alleged misspending/malfeasance of money from the cigarette tax he advocated to the voters some years ago. The money may have gone to campaigning for his pre-school initiative. This does not bode well for him and his possible run for governor. I am a PROUD native born Californian living out of the state because, in part, California is just not what it can be.


18 posted on 02/28/2006 3:15:37 AM PST by Draco
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If that initiative goes through, California's combined federal and state marginal rate will be 47% for the top bracket. For gods sake that could give the Europeans a run for there money.

It's scary to think that these same people could be in control by next year.
19 posted on 02/28/2006 3:22:31 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Beware the Democratic party has been over run by CRAB PEOPLE!)
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To: presidio9

Some of the state's residents are just slower than others...wait 'til the next census numbers come in. The 239,000 plus exodus will be peanuts in comparison to the future departures.


20 posted on 02/28/2006 4:20:35 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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