Posted on 02/27/2006 9:47:28 AM PST by tje
Just wondered what people were giving up for Lent.
Good point, and I though about that as I was posting...
Islam is not a part of the Christian world. I could care less about Islam. I dislike the disunity that "We are the only true Church" causes in Christianity.
I also understand that my attitude toward certain other Christian sects could easily be described as disunity...
I believe that there is a fine line between disunity and heresy. Must strive for unity and truth. That is not always possible.
oh, sweetie, it's possible.......jest gotta be serious about it.
"I dislike the disunity that "We are the only true Church" causes in Christianity."
It could be worse: the denomination claiming to be the "only true church" in the St. Paul excerpt above demanded adult circumcision.
Now THAT can be an eye-opener.
That does cover it quite well. As long as I don't claim that my way is the only right way, and others don't claim that their way is the only right way (clearly in certain issues, not ALL issues), then we can have the unity that Christ desires.
"then we can have the unity that Christ desires"
Won't happen until Revelations. (I've been reading ahead.)
That said, in his discussion about inevitable denominational problems, St. Paul also made clear what it was that was required to be a "Christian" and (I don't want to paraphrase it, for fear of messing up slightly), but the requirements do not include a specific denomination of any kind.
It got old being the designated driver for 6 weekends in a row. I was everyone's best friend.
During that Lent, I was at a restaurant in Addison, TX (May Dragon Chinese)... I tried ordering iced tea at the bar. The bartender said we only serve Long Island Tea here and then walked away. I shook my head in anger that the level of service was nill + I was the king of all goofs for trying to order an UN-leaded version of tea at a bar.
Here is the best lent joke I've ever heard......
Free Republic .com The mods have been more abusive than at anytime in my whole experience back to 1997. See you in forty days, zot.
Being born a Jew, I miss Purim (which is the feast to celebrate the defeat of the enemies by Ester/Mordachi). It has some serious drinking involved.
(This is from a ask-the-Rabbi type website.)
Are Jews actually supposed to get drunk on Purim? I understand there is a statement in the Talmud to that effect, but perhaps it is not to be taken literally? It seems such an unJewish thing to do! Surely there are other, more refined and more spiritual ways of celebrating and showing joy!
Answer:
The source of this practice is a passage from the Talmudic tractate Megillah (7b):
Rava said: A person is obligated to drink on Purim until he does not know the difference between "cursed be Haman" and "blessed be Mordechai"
The issue of whether and how Rava’s statement should be implemented in practice is a matter of disagreement between various Halachic authorities. The question, however, is not what Rava means, but whether or not the Talmud contains another opinion, contrary to Rava’s (see Ran and Baal HaMaor on Talmud, Megillah 7b; Bach and Beit Yosef on the Tur, Orach Chaim, 695).
Many of the greatest Halachists follow Rava’s ruling. Maimonides writes: "What is the obligation of the [Purim] feast? That one should eat meat ... and drink wine until he is drunk and falls asleep from drunkenness" (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Megillah, 2:15). The Rif, Rosh, Tur and Shulchan Aruch all cite Rava’s dictum without any qualification. The Rama, on the other hand, comments that "There are others who say that one need not become that drunk, but rather that one should drink more than is one’s custom." The Rama concludes: "Whether one drinks more or drinks less, the main thing is that his intention is for the sake of Heaven."
To summarize: All Halachic authorities are unanimous in ruling that it is a mitzvah to drink, and drink to excess, on Purim, though there are differences of opinion as to whether the obligation is to get as drunk as Rava enjoins, or to a lesser degree. In any case, the concept of becoming intoxicated on Purim to the point that one’s reason is totally incapacitated is a legitimate Halachic position, which requires understanding and validation regardless of whether or not it is accepted in practice.
NOW THAT is a serious exercise in obedience to God.
Purim is March 13/14 this year, by the way. Go drink; it's mandated by God.
Voting for rinos!
It is hard, but....I will refuse to watch the Nightly News.
No. Giving something up for Lent is voluntary. Fasting and abstaining are however, required, unless one receives a dispensation for health reasons. Fridays are chosen as days of penance due to the Crucifixion having occurred on a Friday.
Perhaps I misunderstood. However, Loverde has a history of thumbing his nose at Canon Law.
Hillary Clinton....she can just suffer without me until Easter.
Abstaining from meat; Fridays and Ash Wednesday, and fasting; Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, are mandatory. Giving something up; drinking, the internet, chocolate, etc. is voluntary.
Lent
I'm giving up listening to libs, dims, the MSM, leftists, and all the pricks on the left. I just can't give up FReeRepublic.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/2-51.htm
PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT
TITLE I. JURISDICTION AND EMBLEMS OF THE COMMONWEALTH, THE GENERAL COURT, STATUTES AND PUBLIC DOCUMENTS
CHAPTER 2. ARMS, GREAT SEAL AND OTHER EMBLEMS OF THE COMMONWEALTH
Chapter 2: Section 51. Donut of commonwealth
Section 51. The Boston Cream Donut shall be the official donut of the commonwealth.
sex.....
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