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Inside Scientology (Rolling Stone expose of $cientology a must read!)
Rolling Stone ^ | 2-23-06 | JANET REITMAN

Posted on 02/24/2006 11:05:41 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser

Inside Scientology

Unlocking the complex code of America's most mysterious religion

The faded little downtown area of Clearwater, Florida, has a beauty salon, a pizza parlor and one or two run-down bars, as well as a bunch of withered bungalows and some old storefronts that look as if they haven't seen customers in years. There are few cars and almost no pedestrians. There are, however, buses -- a fleet of gleaming white and blue ones that slowly crawl through town, stopping at regular intervals to discharge a small army of tightly organized, young, almost exclusively white men and women, all clad in uniform preppy attire: khaki, black or navy-blue trousers and crisp white, blue or yellow dress shirts. Some wear pagers on their belts; others carry briefcases. The men have short hair, and the women keep theirs pulled back or tucked under headbands that match their outfits. No one crosses against the light, and everybody calls everybody else "sir" -- even when the "sir" is a woman. They move throughout the center of Clearwater in tight clusters, from corner to corner, building to building.

This regimented mass represents the "Sea Organization," the most dedicated and elite members of the Church of Scientology. For the past thirty years, Scientology has made the city of Clearwater its worldwide spiritual headquarters -- its Mecca, or its Temple Square. There are 8,300 or so Scientologists living and working in Clearwater -- more than in any other city in the world outside of Los Angeles. Scientologists own more than 200 businesses in Clearwater. Members of the church run schools and private tutoring programs, day-care centers and a drug-rehab clinic. They sit on the boards of the Rotary Club, the Chamber of Commerce and the Boy Scouts.

(Excerpt) Read more at rollingstone.com ...


TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2creepy2breligion; cult; flakes; flimflam; notareligion; nuts; scam; scientology
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To: Constantine XIII

Chuck Norris-style.


101 posted on 02/24/2006 12:54:56 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: D-fendr
However to not see the references would likewise lead to a large gap in the discussion.

When the reference are erroneous, it only serves to cloud the discussion.

For example, what was the purpose of The Babalon Working and what does Babalon refer to?

The purpose of the Babalon working was to bring about Armageddon. This still does not imply that Parsons, or Crowley before him, was worshipping Satan.
102 posted on 02/24/2006 12:59:22 PM PST by augggh (Falsehood is invariably the child of fear in one form or another. - AC)
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To: Constantine XIII

bookmk ping right here,with a kick[LOL!!]

... good thread , btw


103 posted on 02/24/2006 12:59:34 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: windcliff

ping


104 posted on 02/24/2006 1:00:57 PM PST by stylecouncilor
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To: America_Right
From reading your other posts, I thought you would actually know something about Satanism. I was wrong, you obviously have no clue.

Having read at least one of the same books as you, I know at least some of the same things about Satanism you do.

That your perspective is different from my own doesn't lead me to believe that you have no clue.
105 posted on 02/24/2006 1:03:20 PM PST by augggh (Falsehood is invariably the child of fear in one form or another. - AC)
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To: America_Right

I happen to agree that it is worshipping Satan. Perhaps in a different form or manner than the true "Satanism", but worshipping Satan nonetheless. So is Islam and plenty of other religions.

Christianity is an exclusive religion except for the special place it holds the Jewish people. All so-called Unitarian concepts aside, Christianity states you must accept Christ. The opposing forces are of Satan.

Beyond the money making aspect (which I suspect benefits only the upper echelon of Scientology), this is a pop psychology cult. The fact that big name celebrities fall for this given some of the absurdities mentioned in the article and are not ridiculed by the Hollywood set that would quickly denigrate Christians is telling.

Why are they all so afraid of Christianity? Down deep in their hearts they fear the message is TRUE. They don't fear other religions in the same way.


106 posted on 02/24/2006 1:03:54 PM PST by Bayou Dittohead (I agree that it is worshipping Satan)
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To: Tribune7

I recall that they got the exempt status once Clinton got into the White House.


107 posted on 02/24/2006 1:04:01 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Hey you can't print a picture insulting another person's religion! </s>


108 posted on 02/24/2006 1:04:04 PM PST by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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To: Bones75
"Rather than the out in the open burn, rape and pillage violence that Islam uses, they us a more insideous form of personal destruction targetted at speific people who dare speak out against the colt. There are similarties in the reasons and motives, but big differences in the methods, but people have certainly died at the hands of Scientologists, as well ahs had (more commonly) their financial, social, and personal lives utterly and systematically destroyed. "

Thanks for the link.

I have heard of terrible extortion, particularly perpetrated against former members. I didn't know deaths had occurred, though.

It's understandable to hold that what you believe is right--who in their right mind is going to hold a view not even they believe in?

And obviously to believing that all views are equal, as is popular today, is to stand for nothing.

If we hold that what we believe is the one path to salvation, or as in the case of Scientology, enlightenment and self-actualization, then we naturally want to share it with others.

That becomes problematic, though, when instead of presenting it as a gift we wish to share we force it on others whether they want it or not, and take retribution against those who reject our perspective--and particularly when retribution is sanctioned from the top by leaders of the "religion", as is the case with both Scientology and Islam.

109 posted on 02/24/2006 1:04:48 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (It isn't Right vs Left anymore but Right vs WRONG)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Creepy as anything I've ever read.


110 posted on 02/24/2006 1:19:05 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: antceecee

Exactly


111 posted on 02/24/2006 1:23:36 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: SuziQ
You know, it sounds as though LRH decided to write a book to see just how many people would fall for his ideas. I'm sure he could see that many people were floundering out there because they had decided to reject other organized religions, so maybe he figured he'd see how easy it was to hook them in.

I think that's pretty much it too.

His son actually died in '91, just a few years after his father did. In the early days he was in on it, but left after a little while, and even changed his name. Eventually he spilled his guts about what a clever, but shameless con artist his father was, which I would think has got to be difficult for any son.

112 posted on 02/24/2006 1:24:45 PM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Probably the world's most successful scam.


113 posted on 02/24/2006 1:49:25 PM PST by pabianice (contact ebay??)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

Blah blah blah, go play "hate the muslims" elsewhere


114 posted on 02/24/2006 1:51:25 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: augggh
That your perspective is different from my own doesn't lead me to believe that you have no clue.

Ok, but I don't see how there can be such a huge differing of perspective on solid facts. Satanists do not believe in Satan or any other supernatural being. Period. It's just a fact. My brother is a true-blue Satanist and mentally devours everything Crowley. We have had many discussions about religion and I have learned a LOT about Satanism from him and the stuff he has had me read.

Perhaps, in your perspective, not worshipping God constitutes worshipping Satan, but I just can't draw that conclusion.

Sorry about the "no clue" thing. It was a bit harsh. :)

115 posted on 02/24/2006 1:57:12 PM PST by America_Right (Superman wears Jack Bauer jammies.)
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To: Bayou Dittohead
Why are they all so afraid of Christianity? Down deep in their hearts they fear the message is TRUE. They don't fear other religions in the same way.

People fear Christianity because it is the dominant religion. I don't think they fear the message. If they did, they would surely convert, wouldn't they? I sure wouldn't want to burn in hell for all eternity for not being a believer. That fear alone should be plenty of incentive to be a Christian.

116 posted on 02/24/2006 2:01:22 PM PST by America_Right (Superman wears Jack Bauer jammies.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Long article, but a good one. Thanks for posting it.


117 posted on 02/24/2006 2:02:00 PM PST by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"Blah blah blah, go play "hate the muslims" elsewhere"

Once again, I remind you that you do not tell me where and how I will "play".

Although I do feel sorry for you being so narrow-minded and naive as to expect you should contol what is said on your little post so that it goes exactly as you imagined, I'm still not going to give in to your censorship, no matter how childish you get in your demands and name calling.

Here's a suggestion that may keep you from future tantrums: When you post an article require that readers FreepMail their posts to you, then you can decide which ones are acceptable and post them.

If no one wants to play by your rules, as I suspect you'll find, then take my suggestion and start you own forum with membership limited to childish totalitarians like yourself.

118 posted on 02/24/2006 2:14:20 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (It isn't Right vs Left anymore but Right vs WRONG)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Great story, but the author got at least one detail wrong -- a small and unimportant one, true, but wrong just the same. Unless there are two towns named Creston in California, the Creston where Hubbard died is NOT IN THE DESERT!!!! Sheesh. It's near where James Dean was killed in a car wreck, which I also heard Bill Handel refer to as "out in the desert."

Creston (where Hubbard died) and Cholame (prounounced "sheh-LAM) where Dean died are in my native San Luis Obispo County, and in the middle of land known for cattle grazing, dry grain farming for livestock, horse breeding, and vineyards. It's in rolling hills, oaks, and near a bit of a plain (Carissa Plain), but most decidedly NOT DESERT. The nearest desert is hundreds of miles away. Just had to get that off my chest!!

119 posted on 02/24/2006 2:42:03 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

If you can call me an arab sympathiser, I can call you whatever I want too.

My dad can beat up your dad.

(what did you do after you pulled up my sign up date? Probably ruined your whole "you are a newbie" strategy.)

LOL


120 posted on 02/24/2006 2:42:29 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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