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"Rather than the out in the open burn, rape and pillage violence that Islam uses, they us a more insideous form of personal destruction targetted at speific people who dare speak out against the colt. There are similarties in the reasons and motives, but big differences in the methods, but people have certainly died at the hands of Scientologists, as well ahs had (more commonly) their financial, social, and personal lives utterly and systematically destroyed. "

Thanks for the link.

I have heard of terrible extortion, particularly perpetrated against former members. I didn't know deaths had occurred, though.

It's understandable to hold that what you believe is right--who in their right mind is going to hold a view not even they believe in?

And obviously to believing that all views are equal, as is popular today, is to stand for nothing.

If we hold that what we believe is the one path to salvation, or as in the case of Scientology, enlightenment and self-actualization, then we naturally want to share it with others.

That becomes problematic, though, when instead of presenting it as a gift we wish to share we force it on others whether they want it or not, and take retribution against those who reject our perspective--and particularly when retribution is sanctioned from the top by leaders of the "religion", as is the case with both Scientology and Islam.

If we hold that what we believe is the one path to salvation, or as in the case of Scientology, enlightenment and self-actualization, then we naturally want to share it with others.

That becomes problematic, though, when instead of presenting it as a gift we wish to share we force it on others whether they want it or not, and take retribution against those who reject our perspective--and particularly when retribution is sanctioned from the top by leaders of the "religion", as is the case with both Scientology and Islam.

Agreed. Believing in your own view strongly and trying to destroy people who speak out against it are 2 different things. As a matter of fact, IMO, the MORE strongly you believe in your own personal views, the more tolerant you are of people speaking out against them, because you have confidence you are right, and people who have deep down doubts inside about their beliefes are the ones who tend to get all sensetives when their beliefs are questions. (see also: liberals)

The exceptions to this are people like radical islamists who are sensetive about it and crush opposition just because of absolute uber-fanaticism.

The same way I see liberals get their knickers in a twist when they start to get exposed, is the way I see Scientology start rending their garments when someone dares to veer from the view that they are not a cultist, criminal brain-washing orginization founded and run by sadistic lunatics. (By the way, did I mention I'm not a fan?)

In fact.. I think this article in Rolling Stone was a huge softball pitched at Scientology. Way soft on them.. way soft. The again, I'm sure there were alot of backroom threats, etc.. (Tom Cruise calling their office? then his Sister actually GOING there?.. sounds like damage control to me)

The reason why you don't see much about CoS in the media is because they come down with a vengeance on descenting opinion with a ferocity and tenacity that liberals could only have wet dreams about.