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'Right-wing' radio, TV guys split on control of U.S. ports (Limbaugh favors,Hannity opposes)
WorldNetDaily.Com ^ | 02/24/2006

Posted on 02/24/2006 10:03:45 AM PST by SirLinksalot

'Right-wing' radio, TV guys split on control of U.S. ports Limbaugh, O'Reilly favor deal, while Savage, Hannity oppose

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Posted: February 24, 2006 4:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Rush Limbaugh

The heated issue of turning operating control of six major U.S. ports over to a state-sponsored company based in the United Arab Emirates is splitting some of the biggest names in American broadcasting, including Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly who favor the transfer, and Sean Hannity and Michael Savage who oppose it.

"I have been a profile in courage on this story," declared Limbaugh on his national radio show yesterday. "When it comes to the UAE or the Middle East: I do not believe that every Arab nation, government, sponsors terrorism. I don't believe they all are for it. I don't believe they secretly fund it. I think this story about the two or three of the 9-11 hijackers came out of the UAE, they may have.

"The London bomber was a British citizen. We have had homegrown criminals in this country try to blow up buildings and commit crime in this country. The idea that the United Arab Emirates government recruited those three hijackers, trained them and paid for them is not true. Just because they came out of there, I'm not willing to cast negative aspersions on a whole country."

Limbaugh said he was hearing a lot of fear about control of the ports, but said "fear causes all kinds of distortions when it comes to reason."

He also said economics is the driving force behind the deal, and the port operators, Dubai Ports World, would be the last ones seeking a terrorist-related incident at one of its locations.

"As far as the UAE is concerned, if this is really about compromising our security or really about finding a way to do another 9-11, there's simpler ways of doing it and cheaper and then there are also ways of doing it to where the light of attention doesn't shine back on them after the futuristic event. Why in the world would they want to do this as a way of perpetrating another act of mass terrorism, knowing full well that the world is going to blame them and we are going to blame them?"

Bill O'Reilly

While Fox News host and syndicated radio talker Bill O'Reilly calls himself independent and not conservative, he agrees with Limbaugh on this issue, noting this week on "The O'Reilly Factor" program:

"The bottom line is this. If America spits in the eye of the UAE, which is a huge help in the war on terror right now, if we tell these people to take a hike just because they're Arabs, we'll lose the help of all the rest of the Arab world.

"Now remember, countries like Jordan, Kuwait, and the UAE help us in Iraq, Afghanistan, and fighting al-Qaida. The Emirates, for example, captured al-Qaida big shot Al Nafiri, the guy who masterminded the USS Cole attack. They captured him and handed him over the CIA.

"Anyway, savvy Americans will get the picture here. If it's OK for a British company to work in America's ports, and then the British company is bought by an Arab company, and we throw the Arabs out without cause, that's flat out racism. What say you, Hillary Clinton?"

Michael Savage

Before the story of the deal hit the radar screens of most of the national news media, radio talk-show host Michael Savage, well-known for his theme of "borders, language, culture," began educating his audience about the potential dangers of the plan for Arab control of port operations.

New York Times columnist David Brooks got into a discussion with Jim Lehrer of the PBS News Hour regarding Savage's impact.

Brooks: ... [T]his really started and really got the biggest push from Michael Savage, who is a genius for understanding what's going to – Jim Lehrer: He's a very conservative radio host.

Brooks: Beyond conservative, reactionary.

Lehrer: Whatever. You use the word, I won't use the word.

Brooks: And so he had a sense this is going to seem weird to people who don't know about it. And it does, UAE, Arabs, ports, ports are insecure, people have a sense that's true. And it's exploded on left and right.

Sean Hannity

Sean Hannity, who hosts both a national radio and television show, has been in President Bush's corner on most issues, but he's breaking with him over Bush's staunch support for the ports deal.

"I think this president's been tough on the war on terror. I want to believe him," Hannity said. "I don't like the track record and the involvement of the UAE as it relates to money issues involving 9-11, transportation issues. They have a history of supporting terror that, frankly, is sketchy at best. ...

"Their support of the Taliban concerns me. Their non-recognition of Israel concerns me. The UAE's banking system filtered a lot of the money that was used operationally prior to 9-11. Their use of transportational assistance.

"Those specific things, they're going to have access to one of the most sensitive, secure areas in this country. That history bothers me. The administration is saying they're changing. What am I missing here?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 02/24/2006 10:03:48 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

No comment on this divisive issue?


2 posted on 02/24/2006 10:05:28 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Perfectly predictable that Bush-bot Limbaugh pounds the table for the Administration.

(It's laughable that we should believe that any terrorist attack would necessarily and easily point directly to shenanigans at one of the ports of entry.)


3 posted on 02/24/2006 10:07:17 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

I have one. Sean is a conservative gasbag. The value of Rush's opinion is head-and-shoulders above Sean's.


4 posted on 02/24/2006 10:07:32 AM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: SirLinksalot

And Mark Steyn was one voice not bashing Bush on this one.

HH: Now Mark, I know you're a supporter of the ports deal, right?

MS: Well, I wouldn't say I was a supporter. I do think the opposition to it has, with respect to you, Hugh, has slightly gone off the rail. You know, one thing is clear. The United Arab Emirates...for example, if Emirates Airways decided to buy United and Northwest and Delta and TWA, and every other U.S. airline, I would rejoice, because they run a much better airline that any of the U.S. airlines. If the issue is they're an Arab company, well, PNO, who they're buying out, which presently has the rights to this deal, PNO, a British company, actually, more British jihadis have been involved on the wrong side of the War On Terror, in the London Tube bombing, the shoe bombing on a U.S. airplane, Zaq Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, lived on welfare in Britain. There have been British jihadis...there's actually more British involved on the wrong side of the War On Terror, more British subjects, than there are citizens of the United Arab Emirates.


5 posted on 02/24/2006 10:08:11 AM PST by formercalifornian (One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
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To: SirLinksalot

One of the few times I disagree with Rush. Like a caller from yesterday, I can't quite explain it but I don't have a good feeling on this deal. My other big disagreement was when he was all for NAFTA, I still don't see how it's made my life any better. My 2 cents.


6 posted on 02/24/2006 10:10:13 AM PST by printhead
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
No comment on this divisive issue?

It is extremely difficult to give the correct answer to this question. The reason is simple -- THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS and we cannot read human hearts. All we have are our experience and that is eventually where we make our individual decisions.

This is an issue where men of goodwill from both sides of the aisle and on the same side can argue but only TIME can tell whether a decision made now is the correct one.

I personally am inclined to side with Hannity on this one but have to admit that men like Limbaugh and Glassman have good points too.

My reasoning is simple -- it is time for the US to show the Arab world that we aren't going to tolerate even a small hint of association or friendliness with terror no matter how friendly a regime says it is. This of course does not "prove" that our ports will be safer with a pure British company managing it ( remember, there are British terrorists too ).
7 posted on 02/24/2006 10:12:51 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

If anything, this issue has made me ask about who is in charge of security of the ports and shouldn't we be maintaining that regardless of who owns the company running the port?

There are certain Americans (think of the leadership of the Demonrat party, for example) who I wouldn't want running our ports. The fact that they aren't Arabs doesn't make me want to drop my guard one bit.


8 posted on 02/24/2006 10:13:00 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: printhead

My sentiments exactly. And his "profile in courage" boast was just plain irritating.


9 posted on 02/24/2006 10:14:27 AM PST by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: printhead
Like a caller from yesterday, I can't quite explain it but I don't have a good feeling on this deal.

Security concerns aside, there are legitimate and fundamental reasons we should not be allowing this to happen - particularly because UAE is using the P&O acquisition to expand the influence of it's Islamic Law financial markets. Spreading Sharia is not on the list of stuff "good for America".
10 posted on 02/24/2006 10:14:41 AM PST by BubbaTheRocketScientist
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To: SirLinksalot

The funny thing is - the sale is not even by the U.S. - the sale is being made by the British firm to the UAE firm.

The USA is not even a party in the sale.

Most people are so reactive - they fail to listen, they fail to read - they just react.


11 posted on 02/24/2006 10:16:20 AM PST by Jake The Goose (It's not even the U.S. making the sale)
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To: SirLinksalot
Hannity: "I don't like the track record and the involvement of the UAE as it relates to money issues involving 9-11, transportation issues. They have a history of supporting terror that, frankly, is sketchy at best. ...

"Their support of the Taliban concerns me. Their non-recognition of Israel concerns me. The UAE's banking system filtered a lot of the money that was used operationally prior to 9-11. Their use of transportational assistance. "

Uuuh Hannity, they cut ties to the Taliban after 9/11.

See Below:

Press Statement
Richard Boucher, Spokesman
Washington, DC
September 22, 2001


United Arab Emirates Decision to Sever Ties with Taliban


The U.S. welcomes the decision of the United Arab Emirates to sever relations with the Taliban because of its continued refusal to turn over Usama bin Laden. The UAE’s action today is fully consistent with United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1267 and 1333, and constitutes further evidence that the international community of nations speaks with one voice on this issue. Usama bin Laden and his terrorist associates threaten not just one state or several states, but rather civilization itself. We hope today’s move by the UAE will lead the Taliban to recognize that it must immediately remand Usama bin Laden to the appropriate authorities so that he may be arrested and effectively brought to justice.
Released on September 22, 2001


Furthermore Hannity, Al Qaeda used the banks worldwide to include US banks to move money for their operatives. As I recall, UAE has froze/closed AL Quaeda's accounts in their country. Hannity your points are moot.

12 posted on 02/24/2006 10:20:15 AM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: printhead

Nafta helps some not all. Maybe you are one of the folks not helped. I know for a fact that it helped my brother-in-law get his company started and going.

But I believe that Rush has done a fairly good job thinking this out. This is a business transaction. If the UAE wanted to sponser a terrorist attack on the US they wouldn't spend $6B to do it. The folks reacting to this are having a knee jerk reaction without really thinking this through.

I can "blah-blah" about the facts on how the security and the folks that are actually running the facilities won't change. But in the end, the security of the ports are not changing and the only way to improve the security is something that we control regardless of which company is managing the facilities.

I find it funny that the reasons given in opposition are 1) they are an arab country and 2) a couple of the 9/11 folks came from UAE. Well the British terrists where from Briton. Timothy M. was a US citizen when he blew up the federal building. I think every country in the world has there wack jobs so painting the country with such a wide brush is a stupid thing to do.



13 posted on 02/24/2006 10:21:47 AM PST by djl_sa
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To: SirLinksalot

I like that conservatives can disagree with one another and still be conservative. You can't say that about Democrats. When's the last time they've debated anything among themselves like this? It's either yes or no and they fall into line.


14 posted on 02/24/2006 10:23:19 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: SirLinksalot

I agree with Rush. We have a process, set in place by Congress, followed to the letter.


15 posted on 02/24/2006 10:23:22 AM PST by caisson71
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To: djl_sa
If the UAE wanted to sponser a terrorist attack on the US they wouldn't spend $6B to do it.

You're absolutely right. They wouldn't spend six billion dollars just to blow up a couple of our ports. As to the "individual whackjob factor" risk - assessments of that factor can legitimately vary from "no problem" to "must be avoided". Security concerns are short-term and can be alleviated, for example by deploying the military in our ports.

There is one major long-term concern with this deal which is not being publicly addressed. UAE is using the transaction to spread Islamic Law in financial markets.
16 posted on 02/24/2006 10:29:12 AM PST by BubbaTheRocketScientist
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To: SirLinksalot
SirLinksalot: My reasoning is simple -- it is time for the US to show the Arab world that we aren't going to tolerate even a small hint of association or friendliness with terror no matter how friendly a regime says it is. This of course does not "prove" that our ports will be safer with a pure British company managing it ( remember, there are British terrorists too ).

UAE severed ties with the Taliban when they wouldn't turn over Osama. They have frozen the accounts of the terrorists. They have allowed US military vessels to use their ports (apparently they allowed more then any other country outside of the US).

As an Arab nation, they seem to be very western and pro-global with their investments and their desire for western tourists.

What more do you want?
17 posted on 02/24/2006 10:29:16 AM PST by djl_sa
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To: Clara Lou
My experience is that Hannity is often as ill-informed abuot these issues as anyone else in government or the media. Any of these hosts who has had Peter King or Chuck Schumer on as a guest and failed to ask the most relevant, damning question of them (i.e., why are they expressing so much concern about this deal in February of 2006 when it was originally announced in November of 2005?) is really a second-rate media personality.
18 posted on 02/24/2006 10:33:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: SirLinksalot

One thing that amuses me in this sort of situation is the glee with which the lefties see conservatives disagreeing, as if this were somehow a sign of a breakup. It isn't - it's a sign of health that persons within the same party can disagree, and party solidarity is simply not as crucial to the right's self-image as it has become to the left, very much to their detriment, IMHO. We will see a resurgence of a healthy Democratic party when cooler heads tell Dean and his ilk that they're nucking futs in a public forum.


19 posted on 02/24/2006 10:34:06 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SirLinksalot
If gasoline was fifty cents per gallon at the pump, there would be support for this. They have been sticking it to us on petroleum. Do we really want them to be in control of shipping costs too?
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20 posted on 02/24/2006 10:36:53 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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