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Long Beach Longshoreman Threatens the Host (Rush Limbaugh)
The Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 2/22/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/23/2006 6:28:31 AM PST by RushCrush

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To: wideawake

Once a thug, always a thug. *~*


41 posted on 02/23/2006 6:46:36 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: wideawake; sure_fine

"Unions, like all other forms of organized criminal gangs, should be illegal."

Excellent analogy. Let's roll-out the RICO Act and start prosecuting them.


42 posted on 02/23/2006 6:47:11 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: Kimmers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1584074/posts?page=40#40


43 posted on 02/23/2006 6:47:20 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wideawake

bttt


44 posted on 02/23/2006 6:48:15 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RushCrush
CALLER: What you're not saying is that this is a violation of the Trading with Enemies Act. You couple this with the violation of the Espionage Act, a violation of the Foreign Intelligence --

Absolutely EVERY union dock worker can quote these Acts and does not need them given to him in the form of Oh, say, a talking points memo.

< /sarcasm >

Let's see if there is some sort of trend in his words.....Bush guilty....Bush is lying....Bush is going to profit....Bush has committed criminal acts.

Nope can't think of ANYWHERE these accusations have been made before by ANYONE about ANYTHING> < /sarcasm >

45 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:06 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: RushCrush

This piece published, by the way, Wednesday, October 2002. "The six-figure clerks who chart the inflow and outflow of the trucks in the containers frequently by hand say they'll be happy to use these new gizmos, but only if the bar code jobs are unionized," and that's what the fight was over," and I am sure that that's what the concern is here. You say, "What's this God to do with the UAE port deal, Rush? Stick to the issues!" I'm getting there, folks, stick with me. Realize I never get lost in this program. I never lose my train of thought. I never forget what I'm going to say. I always stay on track.

There is no doubt that the concern in these six ports is -- that longshoremen have --0 is exactly over the same thing. We have, I shared with you a story today from the New York Sun about how the United Arab Emirates port company is modernizing and streamlining all of its ports around the world. I told you that the number two -- I say number one port operator -- in the world is owned out of Hong Kong, and they don't want to buy the six ports in question here because they don't want to deal with the union regulations. I doubt that anything is going to change, and I've been saying that all week. But I can understand their fear that things might change, and so that's why they're donating heavily all these years to protect their jobs. That's what the union people do.

So we're faced with the age-old problem of how do we modernize and advance technologically without putting a whole bunch of people out of work. And so there has to be obviously thought attached to all of this. What always happens, I mean I hate to tell you something, but during the NAFTA debate, you know, all we heard about was the Singer sewing machine plant up in New Hampshire, you know, and how people would be put out of jobs. But, you know, economics is what it is -- and the global market is what it is. It can't go back with a wall around the country and pretend that this global economy, interlinked economic dependence is not happening.

You can't turn back the hands of time on things like this. I actually think this. I was telling my staff here during the break, "What I fully expect to happen is if the UAE deal does go through, after all of this tsunami and all the bad PR, the UAE people are going to bend over backwards to show they have no intention of causing anybody here any harm, and they'll probably hire more longshoremen and they'll say, 'Just sit on the dock. You're on permanent break, and we're going to pay you whatever you get paid for it. We're going to increase the number of longshoremen,' and they'll do this for a while just as a PR issue." I know some of you are saying, "What's the difference between a permanent break and a regular job?" Don't make that joke, folks.


46 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:18 AM PST by RushCrush (Indiscriminately posting ad-hominem attacks since 7/2004)
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To: brownsfan
Pick up your crayolas and step this way please....


47 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: brownsfan
That's so well thought out.

Unions exist to coerce employers into paying more that their members' labor is worth in a fair and open market.

Unions gain leverage in both ways they admit (fraudulent sick-outs, abandoning jobs they agreed to do, etc.) and in ways they do not admit to, but which are well-known (veiled threats of sabotage, violence, intimidation of replacement hires, etc.).

If any other vendors ganged up on consumers this way they would be looking at civil lawsuits and jailtime.

I'm glad to see there is no knee jerk involved.

You're talking to the wrong person. I have long and hardwon firsthand experience of union criminality.

Pro-unionism is a knee-jerk ideology. It is reinforced by emotionalist garbage like "Norma Rae", cheesy fake folk songs children are taught to learn and sing, constant positive reinforcement of unionism in the press and on TV, etc.

It takes brains and courage to break with this socialist conditioning.

Now you can go back to your crayolas.

You may be confused. I'm not a lazy union GM worker doodling in the job bank center and getting paid 95% of a salary. I'm a self-made man, not a parasite. I learned to read and write using a pen - no union meathead I.

48 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I hope Rush has good security ... including his car etc.

The guy was irrational.


49 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:33 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: RushCrush

These printed words do not tell the whole store. This guy had real anger in his voice. A violent anger.


50 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:41 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Tony Snow is on his radio show right now freaking out about how stupid conservatives are being about being so willing to throw the UAE over the side. Tommy Franks is talking to him and wants you chumps to know that the UAE vowed to donate 100 million dollars to help us with Katrina. And some of you want to spit in their faces. Wise up!

And, what's more, on their application, they checked the box "will not hire terrorists." What more can we ask?
51 posted on 02/23/2006 6:50:23 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: RushCrush
My concern for Rush is not physical harm, rather the problems unions could cause from his business side. They control most jobs in broadcasting including all "POP's" along the huge signal chain necessary to do a broadcast as Rush does.
52 posted on 02/23/2006 6:50:26 AM PST by devane617 (An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: RushCrush
I have supervised Union guys over the last year, when it comes to doing thier job they are alright...That is, once you understand their rules.

Never ever discuss politics with most of them...A mojority of Union members are the mind-numbed robots the libs love to call Republicans.

Somedays, at work, I would hear them spout off talking points like it was gospel...Being an avid FReeper I do know where they are getting it from.

I am convinced, they are what the Democrats expects of it's own rank and file, mind-numbed robots.


53 posted on 02/23/2006 6:50:53 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: RushCrush

"mmmmmkay....care to elaborate?"

Sure... few here want to hear it though.
Most see:
Union=bad

End of story. That's the case recently, but not always the case. Unions came about because they were needed. Company store and all that. The relationship between American workers and management is unneccessarily adversarial. No one wins in that case. But that's how it is, and the balance of power swings like a pendulum.
Eliminate unions, and companies will abuse workers. Doubt me? How does Nike manufacutre tennis shoes in Indonesia?
Ideally a union would be a value add. It would negotiate, and guarantee performance. Modern unions are extortionists.
But if we could abolish unions today, there would be a need for them tomorrow.


54 posted on 02/23/2006 6:50:58 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: RushCrush


I have been threatened by these longshoreman people now, and we're not going to make jokes about them. I've already had to beef up security. You start telling jokes about them, I'm going to be in even further peril. But there's no question that at some point these ports are going to have to be modernized. I mean, it's just the way of the world! There's going to be new technology. There's going to be faster ways of getting port in and out of the docks, off-loaded and on-loaded. It's going to happen, and there will be steps taken to as this modernization takes place to incorporate everybody involved. Found another longshoremen story for you. This is from the Capital News Service.

It's from Friday, March 12th of 2004. "Longshoremen worry that port security proposals could hit them hardest." I'm just going to read to you what the story says. "Men with criminal past the in need of a job have long turned to the one industry here that would take them," this is from Baltimore, "the waterfront." Well, don't blame me. I'm not the one who said yesterday, "Let the Mafia have this." Somebody said, "Turn this back over to the Mafia," and Snerdley agreed that it would be better than the UAE. That's what you said yesterday. The guy who wrote this is named Joe Eaton, E-a-t-o-n, and that lead story is his, for those of you who are members of the longshoremen's union.

"Many of the same longshoremen who found a solid paycheck at the port of Baltimore worry that could change under a 2002 law that aims to protect American ports from terrorism. The law requires criminal background checks for longshoremen and other dock workers who could lose their jobs if they have a conviction in their past. The Department of Homeland Security is still developing rules for the checks and could not say when they might take effect but any time is too soon for longshoremen here. 'The waterfront saved a lot of people, man, I mean a lot,' said Anthony White, 36, a second-generation longshoremen who's been at the port of Baltimore for five years. White conceded he has a felony conviction for a crime he refused to talk about that's 17 years old. He said he knows several other longshoremen with records. He worries about their families. He questions how they'll pay their bills. 'You gotta get your life together, man. Why do they want to take that away from you? You have a car payment, you have a house payment, what are you supposed to do?'"

Well, obviously we need income insurance. Just like we have health insurance, income insurance. Speaking of that, I can't wait to get to this story in the Wall Street Journal about health care costs and how fast they're rising. It might be cheaper to just buy every employee a house than give them health care. That's how out of control it's gotten. I will have the details coming up for you. The bottom line here in this Baltimore story, the longshoremen opposed background checks on dock workers passed in 2002 intended to improve national security. They opposed it -- and they contribute to Democrats. That's the connection here.

So when you hear these northeastern liberal Democrats talking (nattering Democrat voice), "Nat'nal security! Nat'nal security! Nat'nal security!" Think: "Longshoreman union. Longshoreman union. Longshoreman union contributions."

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

Let me address something I think that's bothering those of you who oppose the deal, and I think it's part of the tsunami effect, and it's quite understandable too -- in a mass hysteria way -- given the post-9/11 world we live in. Well, that's what the tsunami is. It's been mass hysteria. That's one of the reasons red flags went up, and I would imagine that when you some of you first heard this, you had pictures form in your mind. You had visions of Abdul and Sahib wearing turbans operating the cranes and driving the equipment on these docks at these six ports, and, "Good God, what are we doing? How stupid can we be?"

Admit it, that's what you saw. If we're going to have a United Arab Emirates company owning it, then you concluded that they're going to hire their own people. Now, if that were going to happen, that would change the whole tenor of the deal. There is no question. Now you are talking about a genuine legitimate security risk, because you'd have to go through all kinds of hiring practices and steps. You would have to implement the Patriot Act practically as an employment tool -- and I can understand people having that attitude.


I also know that when you hear me say, "Well, the Dutch companies, Denmark, that's a big company out there, and the Brits, they're in the port business and getting out of it and so forth," you think, "Okay, fine. Well, those are nations that we have had a long and traditional relationship of trust with." The United Arab Emirates, even if what we're being told is true that they're new allies in the war on terror and that they are on our side in this, and if you happen to believe what I do that what they actually want to do is be like us, then you say, "Well, yeah, but that's just been since 9/11, and can we trust them?" Because you don't have a long period of institutional trust such as that that we have with long-term allies like the allies -- or the British and the -- well, not the French and not the Germans. Well, some of the Germans, but the Danes, the Dutch and so forth. So all these things are understandable. People in a post-9/11 world are being asked to trust some things that that's not an institution of trust to trust, or to believe in -- and I understand. I understand all these things, which is, you know, why I'm spending the time on this that I am and as I say, I'm just sharing with you the thought processes that I have, and as I learn things.

For example, reading the Wall Street Journal today, they got an editorial, "Ports of Politics." And an interesting paragraph here. "The timing of this sudden uproar over the port deal is a tad suspicious. A bidding war for the British-owned P&O has been going on since last autumn, and the P&O bored accepted Dubai's latest offer last month. The story only blew up last week as a Florida firm that is a partner with P&O in Miami, Continental Stevedoring and Terminals, Incorporated, filed a suit to block the purchase by Dubai. Miami's mayor also sent a letter of protest to President Bush." As the Journal editorial writers say, "It wouldn't be the first time certain politicians were acting here on behalf of private American commercial interests." So we now know also that there is a partner of P&O in Miami which doesn't want this sale to go through, and has enlisted political support from the mayor of Miami. It's common, no big deal, but there are elements of this that are being reported, you just have to dig deep to find them.

The mainstream press is simply doing what it's been reduced to doing: "Bush is bad; Bush is selling us out, and let's give the Democrats 90% of our broadcast time to express their thoughts on it." They're not giving us any reporting on this, which is why I'm spending the time here doing it myself. I also -- after having been threatened by the longshoreman in Long Beach -- I asked Cookie to find out who owns the Port of Long Beach because I wanted to find out if perhaps it was foreign owned. Turns out it is not. The Port of Long Beach is owned by the City of Long Beach and it is governed by the board of Harbor Department Commissioners. We called them, and the Port of Long Beach operates as a landlord. The Board of Harbor Commissioners leases port shipping terminals and other facilities to private firms, and some of them are no doubt foreign. No question about it. Phil in Idaho Falls, Idaho. Thank you for waiting. You're up next on the EIB Network.

CALLER: Dittos, Rush. It's good to talk to you.

RUSH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: I was wondering, are you having a little bit of a double standard here? You talked about the importance of the Patriot Act and keeping the Patriot Act in full force, and not letting down our guard. Are we letting down our guard on the ports?

RUSH: Well, I thought I just addressed that. If the fear that a lot of people first had no doubt was that every employee of these six ports would become essentially a foreigner, somebody from the Emirates or somebody from the Middle East, then you'd have to almost have a Patriot Act to go through the employment procedure to check security and backgrounds and all of that. That's not the case. The case is that the United States will continue to -- and its laws will -- oversee the operation, the union contracts will remain the same, the Coast Guard and Customs are still going to be doing what they're doing, as though they do it now. Somebody else is going to be writing the checks. Just somebody else going to be writing the checks and making the prophet on the operations at these six ports, but I don't know what this has to do with the Patriot Act.

Like I say, if you're going to attach this danger to the UAE, then you gotta stop them from flying into the country with their commercial airlines. You've gotta make sure that whatever property they own here, they divest themselves; they get out of it. Freeze their assets, and then we've gotta make sure that if they are funding -- which they are at Columbia University -- Muslim studies courses, we have to shut that down. You know, we gotta stop selling them fighter jets like Clinton did back in 1998: sixty F-16s. They could have used those against us already.

END TRANSCRIPT


55 posted on 02/23/2006 6:51:05 AM PST by RushCrush (Indiscriminately posting ad-hominem attacks since 7/2004)
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To: Hildy
I heard that call and I think Rush deserved it. Did or did he not say that one of the reasons the Dems were coming out against it was to help the Unions

On c'mon! You must be as thick headed as that union thug if you don't understand Rush's point.

Let me spell it out for you:

1) The dems are traditionally weak on national security and defense

2) The dems have ensured that mooslims are not profiled and are treated with respect here in the States

3) Suddenly the dems are anti-mooslim and hawkish on national security

4) Reason? Their union thug constituents

56 posted on 02/23/2006 6:52:09 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Hildy
I've spoken to Rush three times, and twice it was because I disagreed with him.

I'm guessing you were one of the callers who wanted to see Terri Schiavo dead. No doubt you began your calls with the standard, "As a lifelong Republican voter . . . " (I always swich off the radio when I hear that.)

57 posted on 02/23/2006 6:52:38 AM PST by madprof98
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To: bboop

Read through the rest of my comments, I posted the remainder of the transcript.


58 posted on 02/23/2006 6:53:17 AM PST by RushCrush (Indiscriminately posting ad-hominem attacks since 7/2004)
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To: Calpernia

Thank you, after reading #40 it does make sense now.


59 posted on 02/23/2006 6:53:27 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: Calpernia

"Pick up your crayolas and step this way please.... "

I'm sorry, when did you buy this forum?
Oh, you didn't? Then may I suggest where you can place those crayolas?


60 posted on 02/23/2006 6:53:37 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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