Posted on 02/19/2006 10:25:18 AM PST by disraeligears
Mr. Moderator:
I realize this is a vanity, but this is a question that I've never seen really raised here on Free Republic either by article or by vanity and I don't think it should be relegated elsewhere until it is thrashed about on Jim's main board. I've been a Freeper since 2000, so please honor this one request.
What were the Muslims before the Prophet?
Riots everyday against non-muslim institutions because of, primarily, a series of cartoons.
As a nation that was founded upon Judeo-Christian ideals, but one that also founded upon the philosophy of accepting all religions as well as freedom of speech, there are certain to be large number of fellow citizens who are muslims who also believe in both freedom of religion and freedom of speech.
Therefore, is there a concerted effort by the muslim theocracy, both outside the United States, and within, to intimidate our muslim fellow citizens who disagree with this intolerant world view. The silence of those muslims is deafening and if they don't now, eventually, I believe that the clash of cultures will be so divisive that the Crusades will be viewed as a pre-season scrimmage to the upcoming violence between nations.
But hell, if you're guaranteed 70 bazillion virgins, who cares?
But the current geo-politico-religisio quagmire still begs the question. What religion did the ancestors of the followers of the prophet of Muhammad follow before he was born? Judaism? Christianity? Plural-Deism? Buddism? Hindusim? Just what the heck was the belief system of these folks?
disraeligears
"if they don't now" should read "if they don't now speak up"
Also, I've been a registered Freeper since 2000, but a lurker long before.
Regards.
DG
I've wondered the same thing. The best I have ever heard was that they were "moon god" worshippers. Whatever, they went to hell in a handbasket.
Sane, perhaps?
Thought provoking subject! I'm looking forward to the replies. Shirley
Methinks the same as the Mormons before Joseph Smith.
Zoroastrianism was the religion in Persia prior to Islam.
Wherever Allah is...I'll bet he regrets not becoming a Christian.
Freeper "Fred Nerks" knows. But whatever it was, you can bet it involved "Riot, Rape and Pillage."
They practiced lunacy ... funny, they still do.
I'm not sure what religion the Arabs followed or even whether they were united under one in particular. I am sure, however, that turning to islam was the begining of their decivilization. Many great works came out of the middle east, but stopped cold after islam.
Probably secular hedonists like most of western Europe is now.
There were various minor religions, and Judaism was a major influence.
If you want a full background and analysis, you should pick up something like Albert Hourani's 'History of the Arab Peoples', Belknap Press, 1991. He goes into a lot of detail about religious and cultural conditions at the time Islam was founded.
It sold a lot, so you can find a used copy easily.
They were camelhumpers, then and camelhumpers now....I ask, why not another crusades? Our 10 nukes for every one of theirs.
The originals in Arabia demens were pagans. Most of the ones today are descended from Christians and Jews...and in Asia - pagans, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. -for the most part forcefully converted (through child kidnapping, subjugation, mass rapes and executions, etc) over the last 1400 years.
And they are still doing it.
They were polytheistic pagans, and Mecca was not only a trading center, but a situs for the worship of a bunch of those gods, including one represented by the Kabaa' [a meteorite], which is still used in Muslim ceremonies.
Mostly various polytheistic religions. In Persia they were mostly Zoroastrian I believe.
Genesis 25:7 - 18 ...7 Altogether, Abraham lived a hundred and seventy-five years. 8 Then Abraham breathed his last and died at a good old age, an old man and full of years; and he was gathered to his people. 9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite, 10 the field Abraham had bought from the Hittites. [b] There Abraham was buried with his wife Sarah. 11 After Abraham's death, God blessed his son Isaac, who then lived near Beer Lahai Roi. Ishmael's Sons 12 This is the account of Abraham's son Ishmael, whom Sarah's maidservant, Hagar the Egyptian, bore to Abraham. 13 These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, 14 Mishma, Dumah, Massa, 15 Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedemah. 16 These were the sons of Ishmael, and these are the names of the twelve tribal rulers according to their settlements and camps. 17 Altogether, Ishmael lived a hundred and thirty-seven years. He breathed his last and died, and he was gathered to his people. 18 His descendants settled in the area from Havilah to Shur, near the border of Egypt, as you go toward Asshur. And they lived in hostility toward [c] all their brothers.
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