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He's here, he's Weir
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Posted on 02/16/2006 8:22:50 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe

TURIN, Italy – Ah, let's see, how should I phrase this one without getting into trouble?

OK … so, if there was, per chance, the need for a closet to be involved in Johnny Weir's personal life (hypothetically speaking, of course, although, judging by 99 percent of the American public's perception of him there would not be said need) don't you think it is rather remarkable that he has never come out of it?

If, of course, there even is a closet. Oh, and, for the record, not that there is anything wrong with that. Or anything else. But, well, ah, let's just say …

"If Johnny Weir isn't gay, then I'm not gay," said Jim Buzinski, founder of outsports.com, a gay sports web site, on Thursday.

Thank you, Jim, for bailing me out here. (For the record, Jim is gay.)

Johnny Weir has rocketed to become the most popular and talked-about male figure skater in years. And it is not just because of his skating – which, unfortunately, he didn't display in a poor performance here Thursday where he finished fifth.

He's a national phenomenon because of his flamboyant ways, even if he isn't officially gay. Few people seem to care what he really is; they just like the showmanship that makes Elton John look straight.

It's the dandy outfits. It's the rhinestones. It's the Louis Vuitton bags. It is the prancing ways. It's the fact he describes himself as "princessy," says things such as "I felt like the prettiest flower at the pond" and wears a single red glove.

"I call my glove 'Camille,' " he said at the national championships. "Two Ls."

Know any straight men who would say that? How about admitting Christina Aguilera is their idol? I am less convinced Wilt Chamberlain was straight than I am that Johnny Weir is not.

"NBC's segment was titled, 'He's Here, He's Weir," noted Buzinski, a pun off the "we're here, we're queer" gay rights slogan. "Wonder what they were trying to say?"

Buzinski notes that you'd have to have the worst "gaydar" on earth not to sniff this one out. The beauty of it all is that the lack of subtlety is why he so popular.

"He's hysterical," said Buzinski, whose website has been overrun with Weir talk. "He's so out there. Gay people love the guy the way they always love divas."

Straight people do too. I (since we are discussing it) am heterosexual, but feel quite comfortable saying I love the guy. He's colorful, fun, entertaining. We need more characters like him in sports.

"Tony Kornheiser, who is the least gay human being on the planet, loves the guy for who he is," said Buzinski.

But, why, then is Johnny Weir not officially gay? He's declined to answer the question, even on his personal website.

"I don't feel the need to express my sexual being because it's not part of my sport and it's private," Weir writes. "I can sleep with whomever I choose and it doesn't affect what I'm doing on the ice, so speculation is speculation.

"I like nice things, and beautiful things, so if that is the only way people are determining that I swing one way or the other, then to me, that's sad. You can't judge a book by its cover, ever. I am who I am, and I don't need to justify anything to anyone."

This would be a reasonable explanation, except on every other subject Weir is like a 13-year-old girl at a slumber party – no secrets. He talks about everything. He says anything. He seems to relish it.

"He can't [come out] because he will deal with repercussions from judges," claims Jon Jackson, a former skater and Olympic-qualified judge, who is the author of the book "On Edge: Backroom Dealing, Cocktail Scheming, Triple Axels and How Top Skaters Get Screwed."

"I've seen it," Jackson said Thursday, "And it goes beyond (prejudice) from straight judges. (It includes) gay male judges who have their own sexual identity threatened if a gay skater does something feminine."

Jackson, who again for the record, is also gay, says the figure skating establishment in the U.S. encourages skaters to stay in the closet by making it known they want their athletes to be straight because it believes that is what the public wants.

He estimates that 30 to 40 percent of elite male American skaters are gay. But in what Buzinski calls "the gayest sport," there hasn't been an openly gay American skater since Rudy Galindo came out in 1996.

"It is U.S. Figure Skating's mindset that it is not good for skating," said Jackson. "It is what Tonya Harding dealt with. If you are not a perfect lady, it hurts figure skating's image. If you are not perfectly manly, it hurts figure skating's image. But if there was ever a sport [where] it wouldn't matter, it is this one."

U.S. Figure Skating denies those accusations.

"We are not commenting on the book because it so baseless," said Lindsay DeWall, spokesperson for the organization. "I don't think [sexual orientation] is any of our business. A skater is free to be whoever they want to be publicly and privately."

This brings us back to Weir, who despite missing out on a medal, will return to the States as one of the Olympics' most popular and publicized athletes. He is a hero to the gay community – "We love him," said Buzinski. He is popular in much of the straight one, too.

He seems like a natural for Leno, Letterman and who knows what else. He may not get mainstream endorsement deals, but he isn't likely to fade away. Besides, he is only 21 and promises to be back for the next Olympics.

By then, perhaps, we will have gotten to the point where closets, if there are any, no longer matter. Although, judging by the Weir phenomenon, I think mainstream America is closer than ever.

Either way, here's hoping Johnny Weir, whatever he is, hasn't changed one single bit.


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To: j_tull
Bode Miller is the bigger a**hole, IMHO.

Like Jay Leno joked," Bode finished fifth.

Or, was that, ... Bode finished a fifth!"

21 posted on 02/16/2006 8:43:33 PM PST by airborne
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To: Lunatic Fringe
When he didn't do well, he stomped off the podium and ran off like a mad little boy.

He seems like a classic self-centered limousine liberal. I bet he has a DU handle.
22 posted on 02/16/2006 8:43:42 PM PST by I still care ("For it is the doom of men that they forget". - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Johnny Weird ping.


23 posted on 02/16/2006 8:43:57 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: I still care
he stomped off the podium and ran off like a mad little boy.

I don't know what you saw, but he had no such attitude. In his post-skate interview he said he just didn't feel "princessy" tonight.

24 posted on 02/16/2006 8:47:07 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Fruitbat
WTH does his being gay have to do with his skating!

Nothing at all! In fact, I think he's just dandy!!

25 posted on 02/16/2006 8:47:15 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: RichInOC

LOL!


26 posted on 02/16/2006 8:48:24 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Perhaps it was in the eye of the beholder. My son and I both commented on it. He certainly looked angry to me.


27 posted on 02/16/2006 8:49:15 PM PST by I still care ("For it is the doom of men that they forget". - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Lunatic Fringe; All

I saw an "interview" with this "thing" on PMSNBC yesterday.

About the 3rd thing that came out of "it's" mouth was a snide remark about "republican types".

I hope he takes a "header", both while he tries for his medal, AND after........


28 posted on 02/16/2006 8:50:25 PM PST by musicman
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To: j_tull
(s)he is the first American athlete I have ever rooted against.

Same here, but not because of his...er..orientation. It was because he used his Olympic interview to bash Republicans. All the Republicans in this house used our Olympic viewing to root for the other Americans.

29 posted on 02/16/2006 8:51:22 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
It would seem, in addition to the words 'gay', 'queer', 'breeder' and 'butch', we have lost the proper use of another word in the English language.

Yes, 'flamboyant' is now gone forever. Sucked into that black hole which is the lexicon of the homosexual world.

30 posted on 02/16/2006 8:53:20 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: musicman
a snide remark about "republican types".

Really?

I saw an "interview" with this "thing"

I hope he takes a "header"

Hmm, I wonder why a gay man would have a problem with "Republican types"?

31 posted on 02/16/2006 8:53:28 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: I still care
I bet he has a DU handle.

That's what I thought when I saw his interview.

32 posted on 02/16/2006 8:54:41 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

He was even wearing fairie wings while he skated. Seems to be the thing this year with these little pixie types. My goodness, he doesn't even have an Adam's apple like a normal man, or a man's hairline or musculoskeletal structure.


33 posted on 02/16/2006 8:57:08 PM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: RichInOC

You can easily tell the gay male skaters from the straight ones... The straight ones wear black pants and dress shirts when they skate and the gay ones wear "coterie."

As for Weir, I find the concept of him so amusing, because nobody, especially the media, wants to address the elephant in the room. There's been media articles where they go through all his incredibly HUGE hints and the writers pretend that they're two and ignore them. However, the public, the writers, skating officials, heck everyone over nine knows the truth, but nobody wants to blurt out something like... Dude, where's your boyfriend. It's like the Incredibly Gay Duo cartoons on SNL.


34 posted on 02/16/2006 8:58:33 PM PST by Accygirl
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To: Lunatic Fringe

It has nothing to with his 'walk on the other side.' It's his sheer arrogance and the CCCP costume he wore yesterday.


35 posted on 02/16/2006 9:01:56 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Accygirl

Actually, I think Johnny is dumb like a fox. He is soooo flamboyant, yet makes statements like who he sleeps with is nobody's biz but his own (two snaps). He puts the onus on the media, or whoever he is speaking too. Savvy media play...and who says Wheaties boxes' can only be orange? I see magenta with a lovely royal blue script.


36 posted on 02/16/2006 9:05:14 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Steeler Nation Rocks!!!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Found this on the ESPN website.

Johnny, would Curt say he missed a bus? We think notBy Jim Caple


TORINO, Italy -- Where is Ralph Kramden when you need him?


Nice week for our figure skaters. Michelle Kwan dropped out due to a pulled groin Sunday and then Johnny Weir lost a chance at a medal Thursday because he -- get this -- missed his bus.


Actually, that's not entirely accurate. Johnny's lackluster performance in the men's final wasn't completely due to missing the bus. He said his biorhythms were off, too.

Even coach Priscilla Hill, left, said transportation problems had nothing to do with Johnny Weir's poor performance.
"I never felt comfortable in this building," Johnny said after dropping from second to fifth. "I didn't feel my inner peace. I didn't feel my aura. I was black inside."


Yes, Johnny's a real beauty. He makes Dick Button seem like Tony Soprano.


His favorite male singer is Justin Timberlake and his Web site also lists his favorite fashion designers (Balenciaga), boutiques (Barneys), models (Kate Moss) and teams (Gordeeva and Grinkov, Berezhnaia and Sikharulidze, and -- surprisingly -- the Boston Red Sox). He wears costumes that Elton John might wear for Mardi Gras, including a red glove in Tuesday's short program that he named Camille. He used the phrase "I did a little hoppy-hop like a bunny" while describing Thursday's performance, which is something you rarely hear from say, Brett Favre.

And he owns not one, but two Chihuahuas.

That flamboyant behavior has turned Johnny into a minor cult hero. "My best friend e-mailed me and said, 'You made somebody's Web site as a D-list celebrity,'" Johnny said. "Great. I'm Kathy Griffin."


The Chicago Tribune even ran a poll Thursday asking whether fans care if Johnny is gay.

"I think it's funny that people care," Johnny said. "I don't have a problem with people saying anything. They could run a poll on Bode Miller or on Michelle Kwan and whether she's a lesbian. Who I sleep with doesn't affect how I skate on the ice or what I say in a press conference."


Unfortunately, unreliable public transportation does affect how he skates.

Now, no one was going to beat Yevgeny Plushenko, the 2002 silver medalist and three-time reigning world champion, but Johnny was in great position to take the silver after finishing second in Tuesday's short program. Then, his mood ring went dark at the bus stop.


Johnny was scheduled to skate third in the last group, at about 10:30 p.m. He said he planned to catch a bus from the Athletes Village a little after 8:30, hoping to arrive about 8:50. Unfortunately, there was no bus, so he panicked, rushing around and shouting and looking for a ride and generally expending a lot of useless energy.


"Buses had been coming every 10 minutes all week, but they changed the schedule to every half hour today, I guess," Johnny said. "I didn't want to wait until nine o'clock because then I wouldn't get there until 9:15 or 9:20. Which is what happened anyway. I was yelling at people in English and they only spoke Italian.


"I was swearing. I was calling people and swearing. I was very unprofessional."


It should be noted here that the Athletes Village is about a 30-minute walk from the ice rink.


Johnny eventually caught a ride in a car and reached the arena around 9:20. He acknowledged that he was only a half hour later than planned, but that was a big half hour. After all, he said, he had to put on his uniform and go to the bathroom twice.


"He may have been a little rushed, but not out of the ordinary and he warmed up well," said his coach, Priscilla Hill. "I feel it was a great deal of pressure he's never dealt with before. It just wasn't as perfect as he's capable of. He just had an off night. Personally, I don't think the schedule had anything to do with it."


Well, perhaps it was the hands Johnny had around his throat.


Curt Schilling would have shaken off the bus problem and skated out there with bloody sequins. Johnny, however, missed jumps, skipped a combination and performed several elements awkwardly. When he saw the scores, he darted from the kiss-and-cry zone without so much as a wave.


"I was terrified today," Johnny said. "I wasn't comfortable out there, that's why I was scared."


Plushenko, on the other hand, evidently showed up on time for his bus. He skated a mistake-free routine to the "Godfather" theme and blew away everyone, winning the gold by 27 points over silver medalist Stephane Lambiel of Switzerland.


Meanwhile, Johnny's fellow American (it's hardly accurate to refer to figure skaters as teammates), Evan Lysacek, spent the day in the village infirmary with IV needles plunged into his body, and yet he somehow turned the performance of his life to move from 10th to fourth. Had bronze medalist Jeffrey Buttle of Canada fallen, Lysacek would have finished the day on the podium.


"I've been dreaming about the Olympics for upwards of a decade, but it never involved having the flu with needles in my arm and basically being in a coma," Lysacek said. "I thought the Olympics were coming in and being perfect, but I learned they're about courage and accomplishing your goals."


And figuring out the bus schedule.


Jim Caple is a senior writer for ESPN.com.


37 posted on 02/16/2006 9:08:06 PM PST by I still care ("For it is the doom of men that they forget". - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Hmm, I wonder why a gay man would have a problem with "Republican types"?

I reckon the fact that he has made his contempt for Republicans and his country manifest to everyone (CCCP jacket?) is enough for us to want him to fail badly. The fact that he acts like a dandy fop is distasteful, but secondary.

If he was pro-American, acted respectfully, and didn't go out of his way to insult people, no one would care if he was a turd burglar.
38 posted on 02/16/2006 9:10:18 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: j_tull

Me too.What is wrong with us?I tried but the more he talked the more I didn't like him ,he lives close by.


39 posted on 02/16/2006 9:15:31 PM PST by fatima (Just say it if it is for love-have no regrets.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

No doubt about it... he and Clay Aiken are bosom buddies.


40 posted on 02/16/2006 9:19:43 PM PST by nhoward14
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