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New View Of Mr Boudica
EDP24 ^ | 2-13-2006 | Rachel Buller

Posted on 02/13/2006 10:49:35 AM PST by blam

New view of Mr Boudica

RACHEL BULLER

13 February 2006 10:49

For centuries, he has remained in the shadow of his famous wife, the warrior Queen of East Anglia's Iceni tribe.

But while Boudica outshines him in history, new research shows that Prasutagus was not quite the down-trodden husband previously suggested.

For it was he, and not his wife, who graced the coinage of the period.

Until now, Prasutagus has only existed in historical conjecture and myth as King of the Iceni, the tribe occupying East Anglia, which was ruled with Boudica under Roman authority.

However, new studies on a batch of silver coins found at Joist Fen in Suffolk more than 40 years ago have provided the first archaeological evidence that he existed, and was a man of some importance.

The coins, which would have been buried in the first century AD, bear the words SVB Ri Prasto and Esico Fecit and show a Romanised head on one face with a horse on the other.

It is believed the wording was a mixture of Celtic and Latin - to be translated as “under King Prasto, Esico made me”, with Esico the local metal worker who made the coin.

This conclusion fits in with earlier work by the 19th century antiquarian Sir John Evans who, with great foresight, had suggested that if any coins were discovered of Prasutagus - whom he described as “a mere creature of the Romans” - they would probably look Romanised.

Following Sir John's writings, similar coins from the neighbouring Corieltauvi tribe, bearing very similar writing, were discovered in south west Norfolk that cast doubt on the suggestion that the figure on the original hoard was Prasutagus.

However, extensive new research by Iceni expert Amanda Chadburn, featured in the latest edition of British Archaeology magazine, affirms the original theory of historians - that the portrait on the Suffolk coins found in 1960 is that of Boudica's husband.

John Davies, chief curator at the Norwich Castle Museum, said: “This research is reclaiming this coinage as archaeological evidence to link with the known historical figure who was the husband of Boudica. To find archaeological knowledge of a known historical figure is so very rare. It helps to confirm a part of the very exciting and compelling Boudica story.

“The Iceni didn't write, so we have nothing before that has had a name on it; so to get something which ties in with both an individual and that time is almost unique and very exciting.”

He said that he had always believed that the Joist Fen coins were evidence of Prasutagus.

“Of course spellings change as language develops over time but it is so close that is has to be Prasutagus.”

The findings brought colour and life to the legendary story, which saw Queen Boudica lead the revolt against the Romans after Prasutagus died.

“The study of Boudica is very, very dear to the people of this area and this gives real flesh on the bones. It tells us something very interesting about him as a person because on the coin he is depicted as a Romanised individual who has embraced Roman dress and culture. Although the Iceni lived in simple terms, he is shown as far more than an agricultural man.

“It shows the wider influence that the Romans had at that time in this region, when previously it was felt that this area was a bit of a backwater, away from the influence. This was in fact quite a Romanised area and these coins are very important evidence for that. It shows the royal family of the Iceni was very Roman.”

One of the coins is in the Boudica gallery of the Castle Museum in Norwich.


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1 posted on 02/13/2006 10:49:37 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping


3 posted on 02/13/2006 10:55:54 AM PST by indcons
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To: blam
My theory -- and I'm going to need a grant to really explore this -- is that Boudica was a cross-dresser. The King put his picture on the coins, but liked to dress like a girl when he went into battle.

In today's academic climate I think I will have no trouble scoring $50K for do some research. I'm hopping on the Trans-gender bandwagon, baby!.

4 posted on 02/13/2006 10:59:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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To: blam

Boudica

5 posted on 02/13/2006 11:05:21 AM PST by blam
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To: ClearCase_guy
"In today's academic climate I think I will have no trouble scoring $50K for do some research. "

I think you've underestimated the job. Looks worth about $250,000 to me.

6 posted on 02/13/2006 11:07:18 AM PST by blam
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7 posted on 02/13/2006 11:17:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Some of the Barbarian tribes that attacked Rome went into battle naked.

The Celts that fought the Romans were fierce fighters but not as disciplined or organized. Boudica's forces outnumbered the Romans 8-1 but were wiped out with minimal losses to the Romans.
8 posted on 02/13/2006 11:43:52 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: dropandgimme20

I had always read that she fled the battlefield with her daughters, and either died of illness, or committed suicide; but that her body was never found.


9 posted on 02/13/2006 12:38:12 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

The Romans claimed 80,000 dead Celts, for a loss of no more than 400 legionaries. If the numbers are accurate [not always a good assumption to make with ancient history], and assuming they didn't kill her entire army, the odds would have been appreciably higher than 8-1.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 12:41:29 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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The Romans had about 10,000 legionaries +. There were claims that Boudica had more than 80,000 but other accounts were that few escaped from the trap that the Romans set. You might be right about the numbers. It easily could have been 20-1 or more. Caesar defeated the Gauls at Alesia with about 45000 verses 350000 to 400000. Sometimes the numbers were a disadvantage for the Barbarians.
12 posted on 02/13/2006 12:58:42 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: blam

bttt


13 posted on 02/13/2006 1:42:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dropandgimme20

LOL!


14 posted on 02/13/2006 1:46:35 PM PST by Serb5150
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Sometimes the numbers were a disadvantage for the Barbarians.

Yeah, they must have been tripping over each other on the battlefield. That, and stripping the countryside (their own land) of food like a swarm of locusts.

15 posted on 02/13/2006 2:16:16 PM PST by Max in Utah (By their fruits you shall know them.)
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Interestingly, this is quite near Runnymede (where the Magna Carta was signed) and even closer to a street called Trump’s Green. ;^)

[snip] The Devil’s Highway Roman Road, running from London, through Staines-upon-Thames (previously Pontes) to Silchester is thought to run through Virginia Water. Some of the local course has been lost, disappearing at the bottom of Prune Hill, and reappearing at the Leptis Magna ruins in the Great Park.

Nicholas Fuentes has argued that defeat of Boudica’s insurrection by the Romans in AD 60/61 took place at Virginia Water, with the landscape between Callow Hill and Knowle Hill matching the battle landscape described by Tacitus, and the battle commencing roughly where the railway station lies. [/snip]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Water#History

https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Virginia_Water&params=51.402_N_0.589_W_region:GB_type:city(5940)


16 posted on 12/25/2021 5:25:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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17 posted on 12/25/2021 6:22:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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18 posted on 12/25/2021 6:22:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defeat_of_Boudica#Location


19 posted on 12/25/2021 6:26:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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