Many questions need answers on climate change

Denver Post ^ | 12 Feb 06 | marku Jochum

[rellimpank]

The surprisingly strong El Niño of 1982-83 showed us what climate change could be like: global, devastating and stealthy.

During 1982, oceanographers didn't recognize the developing El Niño, but since then an extensive observational and theoretical framework has been built, and it is now possible to predict El Niño events several months in advance.

The success of that El Niño research

[rellimpank]

--less sensationalistic than most stuff on the subject--

[EagleUSA]

Our planet has been warming and cooling since it was formed, and somehow, the so-called scientists, our liberal chicken-littles, continue to ignore that fact, and think that global warming is something new...next it will be "global cooling" many moons from now, and that will be new too...

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Sun spots.

[bill1952]

Bush's fault

[Hand em their arse]

Other than today, this winter in New Jersey has been extremely mild... Hell, I'm all for the global warming thing!! : )

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Me too. Trees grow faster. I've planted a bunch of new pecans and hazelnut trees on our property and would like to have one harvest before I check out.

[Unrepentant VN Vet]

"--less sensationalistic than most stuff on the subject--"

.......and from the Denver Waste, no less.

Don't know about "Global Warming", but I am now offically on alert for reports of Hell freezing over...........

[VOA]

Of course, one lesson of 1982 is that we may think we understand climate
change when, in fact, we are clueless.

Anyone in Southern California in 2005 knows that.
No El Nino, second-highest (maybe highest) rainfall sesaon on record.

And The Los Angeles Times ran an article with a bar graph of
annual rainfall and El-Nino activity that showed there is little
if any correlation...
BUT the text of the accompanying article said just the opposite.

Simply incredibly bad science reporting to go along with mendacious
news reporting...that's The Los Angeles Times.

[DustyMoment]

Currently reading Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear". He does a masterful job of countering all the "global warming" arguments.

We tend to believe that the earth is just a mound of dirt speeding through space doing its thing. The fact is that the earth is a living organism that goes through periodic changes just as we do. Warming and cooling cycles are normal - it is only a phenomenon to so-called "scientists" who believe that weather events only started circa 1950.

[Ben Hecks]

Currently reading Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear". He does a masterful job of countering all the "global warming" arguments.

I recently went on a trip and listed to "State of Fear" on CD - the evening I got home, some guy was on a TV newscast spouting all the global warming stuff and it sounded just like one of the characters in the book. Crighton won't get invited to all the big lefty cocktail parties after this.

[calex59]

Enviros are not consistent with what they preach. On one hand they claim the world is ever changing and that we should let nature take it's course and leave nature alone(as if humans aren't part of nature)OTH, they claim that we should interfere in everything because nature is changing and we caused it and that we should hold the status quo, never letting the earth change.

You can't have it both ways. If the wishes of the greenies were carried out from day one on earth it would still be a molten blob of cooling material, never changing and never touched by human hands. Their thinking is muddled and wrong and they have the most muddled of thinkers on their side, the dimwits and the Lamestream Media.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Thus, it appears that today's citizen not only has to trust politicians to make the right decisions (a problem which, like climate change, has been around for ages), but also rely on computer simulations to guide the those decisions. It is up to the reader to decide which of the two is more unsettling.

Ain't that the truth?

[KC_for_Freedom]

State of Fear, a very good book. Another is "The Skeptical Environmentalist" by Borg.

The state of knowledge about global climate is very poor. But we can't understand ocean - climate interaction, as the article states. Imagine predicting el nino several months in advance! This year its called la nina and is not raining throughout the countries midsection. But these events also affect climates in Europe and Asia. We don't have a clue. This is why people who KNOW things about the climate are so irritating. I don't mind conservation and even switching to nuclear power to reduce the use of fossile fuels, but I don't kid myself that my actions (or even the collective actions of all mankind) are going to change what mother nature intends for the climate in the next 50 years.

[ClaireSolt]

Enviornmentalism is just like many other liberal causes. Once they get it figured out how to present the problem emotionally they just keep beating the same drum over and over no matter what you do to address the problem and fix it.

[KC_for_Freedom]

err: that was Bjorn Lomborg of course, I get my tennis and climate mixed up

[KC_for_Freedom]

Here is a good article on environmentalism as a religion by Crichton:


http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote05.html

[BIGLOOK]

A few years back, there was an alignment of the planets; all of them. I was able to see Mercury (barely), Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn on a few clear nights.
A year or so later, sunspot activity began and a year or so later, reports of the polar ice on Mars was disappearing.
I have to deal with problems all the time that others believe to be internal, those who never consider peering over the fence to see what's going on across the boundary. Got a volcano here that can change a clear day to one filled with Vog (similar to smog) in a matter of hours once the wind shifts. This place is not unique; changes is weather, pests, floods and storms occur everywhere on Earth. A hurricane misses New Orleans on Sunday but dumps rain a couple hundred miles north and northeast and a levee down stream breaks on Monday. Go figure.

I haven't the technology to measure the gravitational pull of the planets aligning nor the sense to predict its effects. Neither do the astrophysicists who reside here studying these events. However, all of us can record and remember spectacular events....and live with subsequent effects.

Personally, I think 'Global Warming' paranoia is a profitable scam.

Just a rant.

[stockstrader]

Hey, I live in the Chicago area. If you have ever lived here in the December to March time frame,,,,when it comes to 'Global Warming',,,I say,,,,"BRING IT ON"!! The more, the better!

[DustyMoment]

Crighton won't get invited to all the big lefty cocktail parties after this.

Yes, and he's sooooooooooo disappointed!! LOL!!

[mc5cents]

Our planet has been warming and cooling since it was formed, and somehow, the so-called scientists, our liberal chicken-littles, continue to ignore that fact, and think that global warming is something new...next it will be "global cooling" many moons from now, and that will be new too...

How true. And as Rush is wont to say, for most liberals all human history began on the day they were born.