[KC_for_Freedom]

State of Fear, a very good book. Another is "The Skeptical Environmentalist" by Borg.

The state of knowledge about global climate is very poor. But we can't understand ocean - climate interaction, as the article states. Imagine predicting el nino several months in advance! This year its called la nina and is not raining throughout the countries midsection. But these events also affect climates in Europe and Asia. We don't have a clue. This is why people who KNOW things about the climate are so irritating. I don't mind conservation and even switching to nuclear power to reduce the use of fossile fuels, but I don't kid myself that my actions (or even the collective actions of all mankind) are going to change what mother nature intends for the climate in the next 50 years.

[ClaireSolt]

Enviornmentalism is just like many other liberal causes. Once they get it figured out how to present the problem emotionally they just keep beating the same drum over and over no matter what you do to address the problem and fix it.

[KC_for_Freedom]

err: that was Bjorn Lomborg of course, I get my tennis and climate mixed up