"They often see no necessity to do so, and our society as a whole suffers for it," Dean said.
Dean has it backwards. Our society as a whole suffers from the unscientific and irresponsible promotion of the inexcusable pablum otherwise known as evolution. The neglect has been our slow reaction to it. Thank God some capable people are finally taking up the battle standard.
But their work is cut out for them, due in no small measure to the ridiculous, contemptible predjudice of the judges in this country toward evolution and their inexcusable and traitorous opposition to any cogent, critical analysis of it. Way too much of our social deterioration is laid right at the feet of federal and district court activist judges.
The debate remains alive because evolution activists know they have the support of judges, and some of them are one and the same persons.
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With ostenisble scientists leaving to go to USC film school and participate in the culture war rather than actually study biology, not surprising no one takes the blow hards seriously.
If you do your science right and your committment is to science you don't need to get the ACLU to have judges decree by fiat people must believe you.
Eating out last night, and no alcohol was involved, it became rather clear that evolution is easily disproven by the simple fact that food, and drink, that we enjoy most is bad for us, but food that is best for us, we largely detest. Wouldn't the opposite be true if we had evolved, rather than been divinely created? :^)
Ping to self.
The fact that God exists simply cannot be ignored as a possibility by science.
Science now affirms that up to 10, possibily 11, dimensions exist and we live in only 4. Science also says those other dimensions may overlap or have interfaces, branes, in ours and other dimensions. Science suggests some of those other 6 dimensions may include 2 additional dimensions of time, thus the concept of timelessness becomes possible.
Who is to say that it is impossible for intelligent beings in those other 6 dimensions to interact and create in our 4 dimensional universe.
Other scientists suggest there may be an infinite number of multiverses. Perhaps beings from other of those universes may have learned how to interact in our universe, via "spirits" (uni- or bi-dimensional fields of force)
I am an evolution supporter -- there's far more evidence for it than for ID -- but I find it strange that Olson or Harvard didn't include a prominent ID supporter in the discussion panel.
I agree that scientists make the case poorly. Here's why I think they do: most of them are products of well-to-do families and excellent schools, and they simply have no idea how little science education the average American has. And most science departments have janitors who are smarter than many high school science teachers, and just about all grade school science teachers.
It's grim to look at what's in a middle school science textbook these days. There's a lot of political cant, and very, very little science.
I recently answered a high-schooler's question, on where did all the breeds of dogs come from. He was absolutely astonished to know that they were the product of human intervention in the form of selective breeding of what were once wild wolves, and there hadn't been differentiated Afghan Hounds and Pekinese since time immemorial (or since Creation, take your pick).
It's people with this general level of education that start withholding vaccination from their kids, for instance, or panic over power lines, or try to get nuclear power plants closed, or go on jihad against flouridation. (I'm not saying ID proponents are all ignorant like this, I'm saying the median of our nation is).
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The debate means nothing to scientists or to science.
"..probes how it is that, 150 years after Darwin published his theories and 80 years after the Scopes Monkey Trial, a debate over evolution is raging in this country."
Its because there is an element among Christian circles who are uncannily analogous to their Islamic counterparts in following a literal interpretation of their scriptures.
If somebody doesn't want to believe in evolution, they can believe frogs are spawned from contaminated water and flies from decaying meat for all I care. But they shouldn't be permitted to inject personal religious views into what is scientific discussion, anymore than scientists should be preaching morality and theology.
Goliath complains, but David was so BIG, I never had a chance. Yeah right.
Same ole' same ole.. "We're not getting our message out".
Bwahahahahahahaha. Truly priceless - right along with the mock niceties while still maintaining the pretense. IE - the only thing new is that they're saying the same things while pandering to the winning side.. ID. They might as well have requested the terms of their own surrender. *chortle*
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The Discovery Institute has repeatedly and clearly stated they are not in favor of ID being taught in public schools!
"They often see no necessity to do so, and our society as a whole suffers for it," Dean said."
Funny, but after my 23 years of managerial experience, I have yet to write a report or made a presentation to any board of directors explaining how evolution fits into a business model. Now maybe if I worked for a banana importer, a discussion of monkeys and evolution might then be relevant.
I've commented on that observation more generally in a response to Falcon28's reply to PatirckHenry here
The same characteristic or a very closely affine characteristic of psyche that is prone to turn the inttelligent and gifted into Darwinists also makes them poor in literacy and communication skills.
Likewise it may be that a "complementary" charateristic of psyche makes us anti-Darwinists not as fond of the treasure caves of details that the Darwinists love.
We AD's prefer logical analysis first, details secondary. The D's prefer some canned cookbook approach that allows to all the flexibility and freedom in lovingly ordering and reordering their collections of details.
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