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Less fat may not lower cancer risk
Seattle PI ^ | Feb. 7, 2006 | LINDSEY TANNER

Posted on 02/07/2006 2:20:18 PM PST by FairOpinion

Eating less fat late in life failed to lower the risk of cancer and heart disease among older women, disappointing news for those who expected greater benefits from a healthy diet.

Even so, scientists say the results from the government study of 48,835 women don't mean dieters should just throw up their hands and eat cake.

The eight-year study showed no difference in the rate of breast cancer, colon cancer and heart disease among those who ate lower-fat diets and those who didn't.

The research involved postmenopausal women who either cut overall fat consumption and increased vegetables, fruits and grains, or who continued their usual eating habits. The researchers said the dieters may not have cut out enough fat for a meaningful comparison. Cancer and heart disease incidence was similar in both groups.

"The results, of course, are somewhat disappointing. We would have liked this dietary intervention to have a major impact on health," Manson said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cancer; health; heart; heartdisease; medicine; scienceisalwayswrong; wapf
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To: FairOpinion

Get this book. It's an eye opener to the lies about low fat diets, and low carb diets.

Becky

61 posted on 02/08/2006 6:49:02 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Never under estimate the power of stupid people in a large group:)
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To: EGPWS

Oops! Forgot sprouts.


62 posted on 02/08/2006 6:49:09 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: FairOpinion
The eight-year study showed no difference in the rate of breast cancer, colon cancer and heart disease among those who ate lower-fat diets and those who didn't.

The really sad thing is that no one as yet done a study on the effects of the 140 chemicals people put on themselves every day in the form of soaps, shampoo, perfume, etc.

Our skin, the largest organ of the human body, is totally ignored by scientists, even though every breast cancer tumor studied has contained parabens, a common cosmetic ingredient.

The cosmetic industry is NOT regulated by the FDA....it is 'trusted' to regulate itself.

63 posted on 02/08/2006 6:53:41 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a ~legal entity~, nor am I a *person* as created by law!)
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To: CATravelAgent

Thanks for the correction! I went straight to the copy of your recipe and changed it. I had visions of a headline that read, "Alaskan woman kills husband and guests with Killer Texas BBQ Ribs". ;)


64 posted on 02/08/2006 10:38:42 AM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: FairOpinion
I could of told them that, and saved the money spent. If eating fruits and vegetables was so good for you, most people over one hundred would be vegetarians...

but I've never met a 100 year old vegetarian.

nor a 100 year old marathon runner... nor 100 year old weight lifter or anyone who we are told to emulate to help us live longer.

Eating lots of different things in moderation, and staying mentally and physically active in one way or another, is the key to living a long, happy, healthy life.
65 posted on 02/08/2006 2:56:54 PM PST by conservative physics
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To: MamaTexan
There are such studies, unfortunately few people read them. Last several "chemical" and "additive" studies I read through suggested that the risk is so negligible, we should spend more of our time worrying about not getting enough exercise.

That, BTW, is a result that seems to be exceedingly unpopular. That's why those studies don't get the notice they deserve.

66 posted on 02/08/2006 3:47:21 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
Last several "chemical" and "additive" studies I read through suggested that the risk is so negligible, we should spend more of our time worrying about not getting enough exercise.

If I hadn't recently become totally intolerant of certain chemicals, I probably would not have paid much attention either.

I've seen studies on single applications of chemicals, but what I haven't seen is a study on the accumulative and/or combination dangers of chemicals. If you know of any such studies, please let me know.

Until recently, I didn't know chemicals like ethers, formaldehyde and formaldehyde releases were even IN the stuff I was putting on myself.

Now, I have to read and decipher every chemical on the label. Some don't even have all the chemicals listed. I have to look up the Material Safety Data Sheet on the net.

Heres a good place to check a lot of products:
Skin Deep

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Disclaimer:
I am NOT a tree hugger. The last time I hugged a tree, it was 20 years ago & I was 3 sheets to the wind. :)

67 posted on 02/08/2006 3:59:06 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a ~legal entity~, nor am I a *person* as created by law!)
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To: repubzilla
I've been reading some pretty interesting books and articles that claim that the anti-fat hysteria that took hold in the late 1950's and climaxed in the 80's-mid 90's was based on crap. Fat is not the enemy-processed TRANSfats and processed foods, sugar, simple carbs, whatever, seem to do a helluva lot more to you than the stuff our ancestors ate. I might be flamed for this but the low carb people do seem to have some good points. Hey it worked for me...and what that means is good, real non-"diet" foods.. Oh God, I hope I did not start the low carb is the best vs the Low Carb will kill ya arguement!

I've been following this debate intermittently for a couple of decades, and I believe you're right on. There have always been dissenters from the anti-fat, anti-cholesterol hypothesis and hysteria... only now they're finally beginning to be heard.

Turns out we need fats in our diet, particularly good ones such as fish oils, fat from grass-fed beef, butter, eggs, tropical oils, etc.; and certain important nutrients such as vitamin B12 and CoQ10 are nearly impossible to get on a vegetarian diet. Some veggies might indeed be thin, particularly if they exercise like maniacs, but I wouldn't confuse the merely thin with the healthy.

Seems to me that doctors and scientists go through fashions and fads just as much as the rest of us. Hopefully the fad of the demonizing of fat will be over soon. Certainly, from what I've read and seen, it doesn't seem like the average doctor knows much about nutrition. I'm a medical transcriptionist, and every time I type up reports about heart-disease patients, they send 'em home on a no-added-salt, low-fat, low-cholesterol diet. Sorry, but I'm just not impressed.

68 posted on 02/11/2006 6:27:49 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: repubzilla

Absolutely agree!


69 posted on 02/11/2006 6:55:48 AM PST by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: pbmaltzman

Your opinion, I feel is dead on (possible pun intended), especially about doctors and their outdated beliefs. Its like a story I once head about a women who was cooking a ham and cut the end off. She was asked why she did that and she said because her mother always did. She then asked her Mother why she cut the end off the ham and she said that HER mother's pan was too small for the ham.....

Once trained in the low fat theory they stict to it it seems like "just because"...oops babies crying-gotta run!


70 posted on 02/11/2006 10:13:05 AM PST by repubzilla
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To: repubzilla
My significant other has heart disease; I think it stems from all his years of eating like a bachelor and somewhat from his genetics.

Between Christmas and New Year's, just a little while ago, he needed to go to the hospital because of angina. He stayed there five days and underwent angioplasty.

During the time he was in the hospital, I got a call from a physician we know somewhat socially. I went to this guy once and didn't go back. I found him ignorant about nutrition... I was found to be diabetic. He told me I ought to go on Slim-Fast. Ugh!!!

Anyway, we were chatting a little bit, and he says that although he knows I don't approve of taking statin drugs... if I were to influence my significant other to not take statins, I would basically be helping to dig his grave! Can you believe that? There is plenty of stuff out there to make one hesitate about taking statin drugs!

I told him that I didn't have time to argue with him and that I had to work, and got off the phone. The more I thought about it, the madder I got. I felt extremely insulted, and gratuitously so... neither of us is a patient of this guy.

I wrote him a really nasty e-mail telling him where to get off. My significant other felt like I put him in the middle, but I told him that anyone else who insulted me was gonna get the same treatment!

71 posted on 02/12/2006 2:37:52 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: pbmaltzman
My brother is head of cardiology for a large Air Force base and he really has his issues with statins and how they are pushed. Actually the whole high cholesterol paradigm is a little shaky as well. The drug companies sure do push them. They literally wine and dine the medical community into becoming drug pushers...a tad bit scary...
72 posted on 02/12/2006 8:33:33 AM PST by repubzilla
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To: repubzilla
My brother is head of cardiology for a large Air Force base and he really has his issues with statins and how they are pushed. Actually the whole high cholesterol paradigm is a little shaky as well. The drug companies sure do push them. They literally wine and dine the medical community into becoming drug pushers...a tad bit scary...

Good for your brother that he questions statins and the anti-cholesterol hysteria.

Yeah, seems the drug companies and doctors all want everyone on statins. The side effects, to name just a few, include liver damage, brain damage (memory loss), and skeletal muscle breakdown (rhabdomyolysis) leading to muscle cramps (I already am prone to leg cramps).

They seem like pushers to me. I won't take them. I had suspected for a long time that I had gone over the edge to diabetes... some years back I had a horrific episode of viral bronchitis, and I drank cough syrup seemingly by the pint. I had been getting sensitive to sugars for a long time.

When I went to see the doctor, he tried to browbeat me into taking a statin. I adamantly refused. I had brought him some literature about low-carbing and the problems with statins, also one of the Protein Power books. He refused to look at any of it.

This same @$$hole told me that I would be helping to dig my Sig. Other's grave if I influenced him not to take statins (but gee, he had his own doubts about them already). H&ll, I figure maybe if I get enough fish oil in him, he might oulive his dad, who keeled over of his first-and-only heart attack at age 58. Sheesh.

73 posted on 02/12/2006 3:22:26 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: repubzilla

Oh yeah... It also turns out that cholesterol is a vital nutrient and is a component of the cell walls. It's also an antioxidant and is part of the body's attempt to repair prior lesions in the vessel walls. We actually need the stuff. These people who have demonized cholesterol and fat are just idiots, IMO.


74 posted on 02/12/2006 3:24:09 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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