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Prescription for Tolerance: Is Moral Judgment a Mental Disorder?
Breakpoint ^ | 2 Feb 2006 | Allan Dobras

Posted on 02/07/2006 8:28:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

It was bound to happen. In the span of a single generation, we have seen the practice of sodomy evolve from a bizarre sexual behavior to a normative alternative lifestyle; from illegality to a constitutional right; from the closet to the boardroom; from tolerance to promotion; and lastly, from the bathhouse to the marriage altar. The next step, which is already in process, is reminiscent of a Soviet-style “reeducation” program.

According to a December 10, 2005, Washington Post article, “Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness,” it seems there is a serious move afoot to formally designate those who are repulsed by homosexual practice as suffering from a pathological neurosis—“homophobia.” In other words, a person who views the legitimization of homosexuality as sinful, immoral, or destructive to society may have a mental disorder!

That analysis was offered by a number of mental health professionals, including UCLA psychology professor Edward Dunbar, who equates so-called homophobia with racial bias and suggests the “disorder” should be included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

According to Professor Dunbar, “When I see someone who won’t see a physician because they’re Jewish, or who can’t sit in a restaurant because there are Asians, or feels threatened by homosexuals in the workplace, the party line in mental health says, ‘This is not our problem.’ If it’s not our problem, whose problem is it?”

Gary Belkin, deputy chief of psychiatry at New York’s Bellevue Hospital, said “Psychiatrists who are uneasy with including something like this in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual need to get used to the fact that the whole manual reflects social context. That is true of depression on down. Pathological bias is no more or less scientific than major depression.” Dr. Belkin plans to conduct a study on pathological bias among patients at his hospital.

Other psychiatrists have gone a step further and suggested that persons who exhibit “homophobia” may need to be treated with anti-psychotic medications, with a program already implemented within the California Department of Corrections.

Shama Chaiken, divisional chief psychologist for the department, said, “We treat racism and homophobia as delusional disorders. Treatment with anti-psychotics does work to reduce these prejudices.”

Alvin F. Poussaint, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, says that persons with such pathological biases are “delusional” and believes their problems should be treated with psychiatry. “They imagine people are going to do all kinds of bad things and hurt them, and feel they have to do something to protect themselves. When they reach that stage, they are very impaired. . . . They can’t work and function; they can’t hold a job. They would benefit from treatment of some type, particularly medication.” (Emphasis added)

A voice of “dissent” was heard from psychiatrist and author Sally Satel, who opined that hate-crime perpetrators could evade responsibility by claiming they suffered from a mental illness: “I think it’s absurd. You could use it as a defense [in court].”

Brokeback Mountain, the homosexual “love story” between two cowboys has served as a catalyst to bring the issue of “homophobia” as a neurosis before the public. Irrespective of the fact that Hollywood and liberal elites are thrilled by the film and have honored it with a number of awards, moviegoers have generally been turned off by the portrayal of the noble American cowboy as gay. Many theaters are refusing to show the film, prompting co-star Heath Ledger to claim the cancellations are “akin to racism.” He added:

"I heard a while ago that West Virginia was going to ban it. But that’s a state that was lynching people only 25 years ago, so that’s to be expected. . . . Personally, I don’t think the movie is [controversial] but I think maybe the Mormons in Utah do. I think it’s hilarious and very immature of a society—if two people are loving. I think we should be more concerned if two people express anger in love, than love."

The premise that deep opposition to homosexual practice is a mental disorder appears prominently in columnist Dru Sefton’s examination of the negative reaction to the film in her January 6 column. The article features the “expert” opinions of several researchers who see aversion to the film as “homophobia” and offers a good example of the homosexual propaganda machine at work.

Dr. Dean Hamer, a National Institutes of Health (NIH) researcher said to be investigating homophobia, was described as “a scientist who discovered genetic links to sexuality.” He commented, “It does seem to be almost culturally universal that heterosexual men can have a deep repulsion to overt homosexuality, but there is no study I know of to ascertain whether this is a biologically based trait.”

Actually, Dr. Hamer is a homosexual activist who has been searching unsuccessfully for a genetic link to homosexuality for many years. In 1993 he published some study results on gene position Xq28 that he alleged showed a genetic link to homosexuality. The study was widely reported in the press and touted as discovery of a “gay gene.”

However, his discovery did not hold up to scientific scrutiny. A much larger study by researchers George Rice and others concluded, “Our data do not support the presence of a gene of large effect influencing sexual orientation at position Xq28.” Reportedly, Dr. Hamer was later investigated by the NIH on charges of scientific fraud.

Dr. Simon LeVay, also said to be investigating homophobia, agreed with Dr. Hamer. “From a neurobiological basis, I just don’t think this response has been researched at that level, although it’s something that should be.”

Dr. LeVay is the author of the 1991 study, “A Difference in the Hypothalamic Structure Between Heterosexual and Homosexual Men.” The study, which was reported to have identified a physiological difference between gay and straight men, was later proved to be bogus. Dr. LeVay himself admitted, “I did not prove that homosexuality was genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work.”

Dr. George Weinberg, a New York City psychologist and researcher, commented that the aversion to Brokeback Mountain is “definitely homophobia.” He said the film is “the idea of one man’s adoration for another. A love affair more deep and lasting and romantic than with their wives.” He advised that those who are uneasy about the film “first understand you have this problem. At least by acknowledging it, that’s a start. It’s like saying, ‘I have a fear of heights.’”

In reality it is not unusual, nor is it immoral, for a man to have a deep and affectionate bond with another man, but not the erotic relationship described by Dr. Weinberg. As a case in point, men often experience a sacrificial, moral love among comrades in arms, which is called agape love. The greatest example of such love was the sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross: “For God so agapao the world, He gave His only begotten Son . . .”

Plainly, it is part of the gay rights strategy to portray homosexuality as “normal” and to marginalize—and even criminalize—the views of those who might expressly disagree. Brokeback Mountain has provided an opportunity for activists to take the debate over homosexuality to a new level and suggest that aversion to the practice may be a neurosis.

Thus, in one generation homosexuality has been removed from the DSM as a sexual disorder, and persons who find it abnormal and repulsive have been offered up in its place.

Notwithstanding, it is well established that the practice is repulsive, self-destructive, and corrosive to society, as both sacred and secular sources have emphatically stated for the last several thousand years. The fact that it is repulsive is both a bane and advantage to the homosexual rights movement. Because the topic is so unseemly, there is scant open discussion of homosexuality, and the public is understandably reluctant to seek out information on the subject. (For a peek through the window of reality of the homosexual lifestyle, visit gayhealth.com.)

It is an arrogant ploy on the part of gay activists to insinuate that people who find homosexual acts to be repulsive may be mentally disturbed. However, the good news is that such persons would not have to worry about being arrested under “hate crimes” statutes for voicing negative opinions about the lifestyle—they’re simply crazy.

Allan Dobras is a freelance writer on religious and cultural issues and an electronics engineer. He lives in Springfield, Virginia.


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To: Mr. Silverback
Are homosexuals mentally ill?

In spite of its difficult problems, life is complex, amazing, stimulating and worthwhile. I regard it as mentally disturbed to risk it for the core ideal of homosexuality. There is quite a good case that some male homosexuality falls in this category since at least 20% of male homosexuals still regularly risk their lives with unsafe sex, one of the most extreme risks practiced by any significant fraction of society. I have so far not found any similar-sized group prepared to risk such a high rate of death. In its most extreme form then, I think homosexuality is a mental illness in its own right, but few therapists will see clients in that category because such clients will have already taken their first steps away by concluding that the lifestyle is not their fundamental ideal. However therapists should check for some of the other mental problems which are associated with the lifestyle, and refer clients as necessary.

In conclusion, if we ask the question “Are homosexuals mentally ill?” the answer at this point would have to be “You will need to check case by case, and see”.

61 posted on 02/07/2006 9:51:27 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

I figured other people would read my comments. Lurkers, you know!

:-)


62 posted on 02/07/2006 10:20:39 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Mr. Silverback
If a psychiatrist affirms that an individual is a danger to self and others that individual may be incarcerated indefinitely without trial or other recourse in most jurisdictions. An "insane homophobic syndrome patient" could be put away for ever without habeas corpus, no accusation, nothing.
63 posted on 02/08/2006 3:00:34 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: Alouette
Any relation to the founder of the Church of Satan?

I have no idea.

64 posted on 02/08/2006 6:06:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Iris7
An "insane homophobic syndrome patient" could be put away for ever without habeas corpus, no accusation, nothing.

Yep. I think there's a storm coming, just like in 1861.

65 posted on 02/08/2006 6:23:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

head out of the sand? What is the point of talking about the romans and greeks? Dead societies are still dead even if the affects of their culture can still be felt. I'm not sure what the point of all of it is. . . But I have read a lot of this thread and maybe I'll go back to see who brought up the greeks and romans and why.


66 posted on 02/08/2006 7:14:21 AM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

"Just another reason why these modern day witch-doctors and the poison potions they prescribe should be completely avoided."

They're trying hard not to give us the choice of avoiding them. They want to start testing kids for mental illness. A lot of this nonsense is funded by drug companies.


67 posted on 02/08/2006 7:23:30 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Paul C. Jesup
It is interesting to watch people pretend that homosexuality did not exist until the 1960's. These people should learn about the ancient Greeks and Romans.

It seems that you brought it up, however I don't recall anyone saying in the replies or original post that homosexuality didnt exist until the 60's. It seems youve hijacked this thread and led it off on a tangent that vaguely if at all applies to the pressing issue of making homophobia a mental disorder.

The empires of the past had homosexuals and bath houses,so what. They contributed philosophy, art, and science but how does it apply. Youre gonna have to bring your argument a little closer to home. Homosexuals have been around forever just as liars have been around forever, but the point is that the thought that we should cater to the choose to be gay homosexual is on the incline and its ridiculous, so much so that now there are those who are entertaining the notion of declaring that a mental disorder exists if one chooses not to support a certain behaviour, its idiotic. I'm a gay hater if I don't see BBM or I dont want to patronize a openly gay establishment? I have a mental disorder that needs to be treated with drugs? No amount of drugs are going to remove the truths that I have stored in my head, homosexual is not normal or acceptable in my mind. I dont hate the practitioners but I am not going to knowingly support them.

68 posted on 02/08/2006 7:24:07 AM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: thehumanlynx

Well said! Welcome to FR.


69 posted on 02/08/2006 7:46:14 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: Paul C. Jesup
yet you cannot get your head out of the sand.

Perhaps you should get your head out of the sand Paul.

Homophobia:

This term is probably the most outrageous invention of the "gay" sophists. the illogic of homophobia is insultingly blatant.The term "homophobia" is a made-up term, created by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance to try and make wrong the hudreds of millions of people throughout the world who are thuroughlly apalled and disgusted by the sexually psychotic morally insane lifestyles promoted by them.

"Homophobia" indicates a "fear" of sexual perversion. One does not have to "fear" dog crap to not want to eat it, play with it, sexualize it or otherwise oppose and ridecule those that do.

Originally, homophobia was psychiatric jargon invented to describe a person's fear of homosexual inclinations in him or herself. "Gay" activists simply stole the term and redefined it as "hate and/or fear of homosexuals."

As a rhetorical weapon, homophobia is unequaled. It serves first to define anyone who opposes the legitimization of homosexuality as a hate-filled bigot. The universal inclusion of all opponents as homophobic is of course not emphasized. Homosexual activists publicly associate this label with violent "gay bashers" and hateful fanatics. When they use the term they want people to think about the killers of Matthew Shepard, but in conventional practice they include every man, woman and child who believes homosexuality is abnormal or wrong.

Secondly, the term defines opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. "Gay" activists take special delight in this since it was scant decades ago that homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychiatry (removed by the political maneuvering of homosexual activists in a 1973 vote of the members of the American Psychiatric Association without one shred of scientific evidence proving homosexual behavior to be a normal immutable human attribute).

Thirdly, the term serves as the semantic equivalent of "racist," helping the "gay" movement to further indoctrinate the public with the notion that opposition to homosexuality is equivalent to prejudice against racial minorities. The use of the term is in itself religious discrimination because it implicitly disparages and declares illegitimate the religious teachings of several major world religions. Adoption of the term by government constitutes a prima facie violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prohibits the endorsement or inhibition of religion.

70 posted on 02/08/2006 8:07:10 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

ibid


71 posted on 02/08/2006 9:01:18 AM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: little jeremiah
While Paul brags about how great the Romans were, he fails to mention other less desirable behavior thought to be fashionable by the Romans.For example: how aristocratic families in the late Roman Republic would have vomitoriums built in their homes, just so that they wouldn't have to stop engorging themselves with food, meanwhile most poor subjects under the rule of the great Roman empire often starved.
72 posted on 02/08/2006 9:55:50 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: Nightshift; WKB; Sybeck1; pamlet; aumrl; mariabush; nmh; Ingtar; Blogger; Sweet Hour of Prayer; ...
Baptist ping...

From the article the all-wise psycho-babblers are already experimenting on prisoners!

Other psychiatrists have gone a step further and suggested that persons who exhibit “homophobia” may need to be treated with anti-psychotic medications, with a program already implemented within the California Department of Corrections.

73 posted on 02/08/2006 10:13:30 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: tutstar

When I see someone who won’t see a physician because they’re Jewish, or who can’t sit in a restaurant because there are Asians, or feels threatened by homosexuals in the workplace



Jews and Asians I can handle.
Radical in your face homos I can't.


74 posted on 02/08/2006 10:19:54 AM PST by WKB
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To: Mr. Silverback
“Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness,”

LOL So does that include those who have an extreme bias against those who know that same gender is a bad thing?

No, of course it doesn't.

The psychiatrict community is allowing itself to be made a fool because of 'political correctness.'

75 posted on 02/08/2006 10:23:39 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Gary Belkin, deputy chief of psychiatry at New York’s Bellevue Hospital, said “Psychiatrists who are uneasy with including something like this in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual need to get used to the fact that the whole manual reflects social context. That is true of depression on down. Pathological bias is no more or less scientific than major depression.” Dr. Belkin plans to conduct a study on pathological bias among patients at his hospital.

What this fool is admitting, and I'd bet he doesn't even realize it, is that there [b]is no scientific validity[/b] to his profession.

76 posted on 02/08/2006 10:25:24 AM PST by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: kenth
Actors. Is there anything they don't know?

Is there anything they do?

77 posted on 02/08/2006 10:30:23 AM PST by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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To: WKB
Notice the change..." who won’t see a physician because they’re Jewish, or who can’t sit in a restaurant because there are Asians, or feels threatened by homosexuals in the workplace.." It's not "won't see a physician because they're homosexual," rather it's feels threatened by..." You can be repulsed by behavior without feeling threatened. I wouldn't want a bunch of smelly non-bathers in my workplace and it wouldn't be because I feel threatened. It's just gross.
78 posted on 02/08/2006 10:34:30 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Technocrat

My mom sent me to a shrink when I was in elementary school. Very bad business, believe me.


79 posted on 02/08/2006 10:46:15 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Nothing like moral blinders to blind one to the simple truth.


80 posted on 02/08/2006 10:47:27 AM PST by little jeremiah
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