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Abortion Can Be a Sacred Choice [Minister lobbies for abortion]
Newhouse News ^ | 2/3/2006 | Connie Schultz

Posted on 02/05/2006 10:34:42 AM PST by Incorrigible

Abortion Can Be a Sacred Choice

BY CONNIE SCHULTZ

With the simplest of gestures, any woman in America can lay her hands on the battleground here at home.

It's beneath the soft flesh of her own body, the area nestled between her hips where babies are conceived or not, carried to term or not. By merely resting her hand across her abdomen, a woman can find the combustible intersection of politics and religion where the mighty turf war is being waged.

If you listen only to those who scream the loudest, you might think that most Americans of faith believe abortion is a sin against God. It's a common misperception, and one that deeply troubles the Rev. Dr. Carlton Veazey, who heads the Washington, D.C.-based Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice and founded its Black Church Initiative.

"The majority of religious people in this country support choice, but you wouldn't know it by the noise and ink in the media from the other side," says the 69-year-old Baptist minister. "People tend to identify religious people with anti-choice, but that is the opposite of reality."

Polling last summer by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life revealed that while a majority of Americans want more restrictions on abortion, they overwhelmingly want to keep it legal. Even among evangelicals who were polled, fewer than half favored overturning Roe v. Wade. Only 15 percent said abortion should be eliminated.

None of these findings surprise Veazey, nor does he find them inconsistent with religious faith.

"I was raised by my father, who was also a minister, to believe in the moral agency of individuals, that they had a right to make moral choices. Choice is a God-given right. To have a child can be a sacred choice. By the same token, to not have a child can be a sacred choice.

"The woman may not be prepared to bring a new life into the world. She may not be able to provide for a child. She may decide, `My life is not where it should be."'

The willingness to empathize with a woman facing an unplanned pregnancy is what brings many of us to support the right to reproductive freedom. Even those who are certain they could never abort a fetus under any circumstances can understand why someone else would, if only they start to imagine a whole different set of circumstances in their lives.

What if I were a teenager? Or completely alone? In a violent or abusive relationship? What would I do if I knew there was something genetically wrong with the fetus inside me? What if I were pregnant from a rape? What would I do if I were pregnant and poor?

"I keep thinking of what Joycelyn Elders told me," Veazey said, referring to the former U.S. surgeon general. "That 70 percent of poverty in the black community can be traced to teen pregnancy."

So Veazey has taken his sermon to the road. On that, he had no choice, especially in light of Samuel Alito's appointment to the Supreme Court.

"We are going to become a theocracy if we aren't going to be more outspoken as religious progressives. One thing I have to give the opposition: They're very skillful in working the media."

Some of them are also emotional terrorists.

Earlier this week, I spoke with a 65-year-old grandmother who recently started escorting patients into an abortion clinic. A devoted member of the United Church of Christ, she told me that navigating women past screaming protesters has bolstered her faith and made her fiercely pro-choice.

"These people taunt and abuse these women. They scream, `You're murderers!' They don't even know why some of these women are there. They may be coming for counseling or diagnostic tests, but the protesters attack them anyway, as if they have all the answers for everyone in the world, as if they alone have the pipeline for God."

They frighten her, which is why she didn't want me to use her name. They will not, however, scare her away.

"I did not know the pain inflicted on these women," she said. "Women have the moral integrity to make these decisions for themselves. It's terrorism on their hearts."

It's also just another tactic in the war over who controls a woman's womb.

Feb. 3, 2006

(Connie Schultz is a columnist for The Plain Dealer of Cleveland. She can be contacted at cschultz@plaind.com.)

Not for commercial use.  For educational and discussion purposes only.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: District of Columbia; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; antichrist; apostacy; apostate; babykillers; babykilling; cultureofdeath; deathcult; eugenics; euthanasia; falsegospel; finalsolution; godhaters; plannedbarrenhood; rcrc; religiousleft; veazey
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To: Incorrigible; betty boop; joanie-f; ATOMIC_PUNK; Knute; TruthShallSetYouFree
What would I do if I were pregnant and poor?

I don't know reverend...why don't you ask Mary, the mother of Christ. That example should be the one you let penetrate your heart and preach to your congregation.

This so-called minister is wresting the scriptiures and preaching an absolutely perverted, strong dillusion.

21 posted on 02/05/2006 11:06:44 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Incorrigible

um...

it seems to me that...

IF we insist that a woman can decide, once pregnant, that she cannot afford to bring a babe into the world...

THEN we must simultaneously insist that that same woman can decide, before she gets pregnant, that she cannot afford to bring a babe into the world.

don't want to get pregnant?
don't screw.

very simple, and covers the majority of "unplanned" pregnancies now routinely aborted.


22 posted on 02/05/2006 11:10:50 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Incorrigible
What Bible does this "Baptist minister" actually read?

The one where you have to light candles and sacrifice a goat before opening.

23 posted on 02/05/2006 11:22:05 AM PST by uglybiker (If a Liberal said something, and there was no one around to hear. Would it still be stupid?)
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To: Incorrigible

What is it about these so called Xstian "ministers" that screams PAGANISM?


24 posted on 02/05/2006 11:22:33 AM PST by eleni121 (uestion)
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To: Izzy Dunne
This "sacred choice" stuff is nonsense. Even if it is, such choices are not necessarily protected rights. Would killing a 4 year old simply because "my life is not where it needs to be right now" be considered a sacred choice? The issue is the murder of an innocent human child. PERIOD!! I wish these people would get a clue. I am tired of it.

Also, the idea that Christians support Roe is idiotic. My 10,000 member church is rabidly pro-life. I would bet that not a single member supports Roe. Perhaps it is the lame brain liberal churches that harbor these vermin.

Sorry for the rant. This guy just struck a nerve with me.

25 posted on 02/05/2006 11:23:20 AM PST by Clump
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

WOW! That is an amazing picture.


26 posted on 02/05/2006 11:24:45 AM PST by Clump
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


27 posted on 02/05/2006 11:25:07 AM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: Clump
Would killing a 4 year old simply because "my life is not where it needs to be right now" be considered a sacred choice?

That's what Sweetwater Post-Natal Abortion Clinic is for.

28 posted on 02/05/2006 11:30:31 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Incorrigible
""The majority of religious people in this country support choice"

Of course they support "choice", but choice and abortion are two very different things, and they are linked only in an insideous way, as homosexula perversion is linked to the word "gay". It's pure b.s.

But what's really wrong with the statement is that Christians themselves have no right to determine for themselves what is moral and what is not. That's why God gave us the Church in the first place, to disseminate HIS word and HIS teachings, not our own.

29 posted on 02/05/2006 11:35:22 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; butternut_squash_bisque

Close, but not quite regarding that photo:

From Snopes.com: http://snopes.com/photos/thehand.asp

"What actually happened, as described in news reports of the surgery, was that: [J]ust as surgeon Dr. Joseph Bruner was closing the incision in Julie Armas' uterus, Samuel's thumbnail-sized hand flopped out. Bruner lifted it gently and tucked it back in."

and

"Some opponents of abortion have claimed that the baby reached through the womb and grabbed the doctor's hand.
Not true, Bruner says.

Samuel and his mother, Julie, were under anesthesia and could not move.

"The baby did not reach out," Bruner says. "The baby was anesthetized. The baby was not aware of what was going on."


30 posted on 02/05/2006 11:35:32 AM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: Incorrigible

Satanic.


31 posted on 02/05/2006 11:35:46 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Wow! A picture is worth a 1000 words.


32 posted on 02/05/2006 11:40:04 AM PST by DocRock
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To: Incorrigible
Rev. Dr. Carlton Veazey, who heads the Washington, D.C.-based Religious
Coalition for Reproductive Choice and founded its Black Church Initiative...


...to "right-size" black churches!
Good heavens, this "minister" must be a plant from the KKK!
33 posted on 02/05/2006 11:52:46 AM PST by VOA
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To: CondorFlight
Killing infants was a 'sacred choice' for Baal worshippers
and Moloch worshippers.


I saw a National Geographic special about molecular biologists
trying to establish if the peoples of Lebanon were of one or two
genetic stocks...and to unravel the origins of the Phoenicians
("The Sea People").
The show mentioned that the "sea people" were said to have engaged in
child sacrifice, but the expert said that he thought that the
history writers had given "the sea people" a bad wrap and doubted
it had happened.

Later in the episode, the little containers of the burned bones
of infants from archaeological digs were shown...


Oh, and by the way, the Lebanese are of one genetic stock...
34 posted on 02/05/2006 11:57:52 AM PST by VOA
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To: Jim Noble

I'm with you! Pro-choice BEFORE conception, pro-LIFE after. Not very complicated.


35 posted on 02/05/2006 12:07:02 PM PST by trimom
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To: Incorrigible

What God’s Word Says About Abortion
By Lynn Copeland

God speaks very clearly in the Bible on the value of unborn children. God’s Word says that He personally made each one of us, and has a plan for each life:

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart" (Jeremiah 1:5).

"Even before I was born, God had chosen me to be His" (Galatians 1:15).

"For You created my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother’s womb . . . Your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in Your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:13, 16). "Your hands shaped me and made me . . . Did You not clothe me with skin and flesh and knit me together with bones and sinews? You gave me life" (Job 10:8–12).

"This is what the Lord says—He who made you, who formed you in the womb" (Isaiah 44:2).

"Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same One form us both within our mothers?" (Job 31:15).

Because man is made in God’s own image (Genesis 1:27), each life is of great value to God: "Children are a gift from God" (Psalm 127:3). He even calls our children His own: "You took your sons and daughters whom you bore to Me and sacrificed them...You slaughtered My children" (Ezekiel 16:20,21). The Bible says of our Creator, "In His hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of every human being" (Job 12:10). God, the giver of life, commands us not to take the life of an innocent person: "Do not shed innocent blood" (Jeremiah 7:6); "Cursed is the man who accepts a bribe to kill an innocent person" (Deuteronomy 27:25). "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13). Taking the life of the unborn is clearly murder—"He didn’t kill me in the womb, with my mother as my grave" (Jeremiah 20:17)— and God vowed to punish those who "ripped open the women with child" (Amos 1:13).

The unborn child was granted equal protection in the law; if he lost his life, the one who caused his death must lose his own life: "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined . . .But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life" (Exodus 21:22,23). Life is a gift created by God, and is not to be taken away by abortion. God is "prochoice," but He tells us clearly the only acceptable choice to make: "I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live" (Deuteronomy 30:19).


36 posted on 02/05/2006 12:08:42 PM PST by Search4Truth (The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.)
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To: Incorrigible

""That 70 percent of poverty in the black community can be traced to teen pregnancy.""

Very good - let's evade the subject of absentee dads.
I'm sure the fatherless families have nothing to do with poverty at all.


37 posted on 02/05/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Incorrigible
The word according to this man
"The woman may not be prepared to bring a new life into the world. She may not be able to provide for a child. She may decide, `My life is not where it should be."'

The Word according to followers of Christ Luke 1:38

"I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.
The truth is plain. The lie is not.
38 posted on 02/05/2006 12:32:48 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Incorrigible

The ignorance and illogic of the author and the so-called Reverend are exceeded only by their evil.


39 posted on 02/05/2006 12:45:04 PM PST by Faraday
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To: coop71

Thats ok i trust my eye's not Snope's snoops


40 posted on 02/05/2006 12:46:45 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (The Death Penalty isn't for making examples it's for making bad people DEAD!)
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