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Liberal-Left Deserting Hillary Clinton (So who's left to vote for her?)
Sierra Times ^ | 2/2/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 02/02/2006 1:46:05 PM PST by FerdieMurphy

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To: Verginius Rufus

"That the percentage of men who won't vote for her is only 60% shows that a lot of men just haven't been paying attention."

Poll was taken in San Francisco maybe?


61 posted on 02/02/2006 6:15:25 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: jalisco555

And don't underestimate him come November,


2006 ???


62 posted on 02/02/2006 6:28:19 PM PST by danamco
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To: Graymatter

Yeah that's what we all said about Clinton until November 1992. People are just too smart to vote for that. But they did, twice,


No real internet and NO F.R.!!!


63 posted on 02/02/2006 6:32:06 PM PST by danamco
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To: jalisco555

"The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that the Dems will nominate Al Gore again."

I'm thinking you may be right. ;)


64 posted on 02/02/2006 6:35:17 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Right after a poll showed last week that most Americans would “definitely” not vote for her...

Is it any wonder:

U S Congressional Record/Senate
106th Congress
June 23, 1999
pgs. S7483-S7486
The Clinton National Security Scandal and Coverup
Senator James Inhofe
(top right hand cornor)

65 posted on 02/02/2006 6:36:08 PM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm not sure who it will be, but it wont be Hilary!


66 posted on 02/02/2006 6:41:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: danamco
2006 ???

No, 2008.

67 posted on 02/02/2006 6:53:13 PM PST by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Don't tell anyone butt, Over-the-Hilary's problem is nobody likes her!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


68 posted on 02/02/2006 6:56:46 PM PST by bray (Jack Bauer '08)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Hillary shouldn't be worried about the extreme left right now .. she can entice them back to her side once they realize it's her or some conservative.

But .. I think she can win her senate seat without them.

And .. for whatever it's worth .. I think Hillary is compling with the Sheehan/Soros groups because they are actually spouting her REAL AGENDA. Conyers (NY) heads up the "impeachment" group - there is no way you can convince me Hillary is not backing that scum.


69 posted on 02/02/2006 7:00:34 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: gitmo
The DUmmies immediately said that Bush was trying to push the democRats into nominating Hillary.


70 posted on 02/02/2006 7:10:54 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: infowarrior

Hillary can't openly get a RINO to run as a third-party candidate, but then Bill didn't openly get Ross Perot to run in 1992. (Whether there were any secret understandings behind the scenes, I don't know.) The media would much rather have Hillary win than any Republican, so they could egg on one of the losers in the Republican primaries in 2008 to run as an independent...and Hillary would be the beneficiary.


71 posted on 02/02/2006 7:28:41 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Perot started his run *before* New Hampshire in 1992. That was what made him credible. Anything else isn't gonna fly, so if she *needs* the "third party option" she'll have to hustle...

the infowarrior

72 posted on 02/02/2006 7:32:55 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: kellynch
...they had a poll up about the 2008 primaries. Gore was leading by a landslide...

If so, I'm trying to imagine a Florida-type 2008 recount in, say, Texas, or Tennessee....

73 posted on 02/02/2006 10:00:03 PM PST by OnRightOnLeftCoast
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To: tumblindice

She needs to get the name of Susan Estrich's doctor.


74 posted on 02/03/2006 3:18:51 AM PST by kellynch (I am excessively diverted. ~~Jane Austen)
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To: FerdieMurphy

The Democrats are between a rock and a hard place. Their most electable people in the general elections are from the South and midwest, such as the ex-governor of Virginia. However, their base that actually selects their Presidential candidate ir the primdaries, are frothing at the mouth, and only a hard left candidate will make them happy...especially in 2008 after they swallowed Kerry because they were told he was "electable". Even HE was not leftist enough for them, and they feel no that they will no longer sacrifice their principles just to select someone "electable".


75 posted on 02/03/2006 8:15:06 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Graymatter
Please don't confuse me with a Democrat. Edwards does NOT seem young and dynamic to me. I was writing about the impression he makes on Democrats.

Right -- I understand that. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

My point is that he probably doesn't seem as "young and dynamic" to Democrats as you might think . . . as evidenced by his poor showing in 2004 and the fact that most people who listen to him speak more than once think of him as a repetitive bore.

His smarmy lawyer persona probably turns off a lot of people, too.

76 posted on 02/03/2006 10:38:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yet Edwards had a late surge in the primaries, and although Kerry won nearly all of them, Edwards was close behind. (Objects in your mirror are bigger than they seem, as he warned Kerry.)
He won in the two Carolinas, IIRC, and was tied with Clark in a third state.
And I still don't understand why Kerry picked this one-term senator and pretty boy for a running mate, but he must have had his reasons.
Near as I can figure from reading their nasty websites, lefties don't regard the '04 loss as Edwards' fault, only Kerry's. They LIKE the Breck girl, and phoniness doesn't bother them. Wesley Clark wasn't even a Democrat until just before the election, but they idolize him. Does any rational person think Clark became a Dem on principle?
And then there's my 16-year-cycle theory. Since 1960, every 16 years they go with a youthful "new broom" type with a good head of hair and a young daughter hanging onto his young wife. And every 16 years they cash in on Republican fatigue---8 to 12 years of Republican presidency preceding them. Add to this the low immunity against populism, plus the lib media behind him, and I see Edwards sweeping the '08 primaries. I hope I'm wrong, but the voters fell for a fraud like Bill Clinton, so anything's possible.


77 posted on 02/03/2006 11:14:27 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter
Edwards won South Carolina because that was his home state. He won North Carolina because that's where he lived, and because he represented North Carolina in the U.S. Senate. On a national level, I don't think Edwards was ever getting poll numbers higher than 20% among the Democrats. In fact, his candidacy will go down as one of the most over-hyped, overrated stories in the history of U.S. presidential elections -- and I predict that his abject mediocrity will be confirmed by the fact that he never shows his face in national politics again.

I think Kerry picked him as his running mate in the hopes that having a Southerner on the ticket gave him a chance to win one or two Southern states that would otherwise be won overwhelmingly by the GOP. Times certainly have changed, and voters obviously aren't fooled by this kind of nonsense. Having Edwards on the ticket gave the Democrats the same results in North Carolina in 2004 as they got from Tennessee in 2000 with Al Gore on the national ticket.

I hope I'm wrong, but the voters fell for a fraud like Bill Clinton.

No, they didn't. Clinton was elected with 43% of the vote in 1992, and re-elected at the height of his popularity in 1996 with less than 50% of the vote. Both of the losing candidates in the two elections since then have exceeded Clinton's highest vote total by a minimum of 3 million votes.

78 posted on 02/03/2006 11:33:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: infowarrior
Perot started his run *before* New Hampshire in 1992. That was what made him credible.

What also made him credible was that he had an enormous personal fortune that he could use to match the campaign cash raised by the major party candidates.

79 posted on 02/03/2006 11:35:39 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Alberta's Child
What also made him credible was that he had an enormous personal fortune that he could use to match the campaign cash raised by the major party candidates.

Neither of the two points of credibility are repeatable at will by Hillary Clinton. She may well try, but it is reasonable to believe that it will not be successful...

the infowarrior

80 posted on 02/03/2006 3:35:11 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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