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Liberal-Left Deserting Hillary Clinton (So who's left to vote for her?)
Sierra Times ^ | 2/2/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 02/02/2006 1:46:05 PM PST by FerdieMurphy

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To: FerdieMurphy; Victoria Delsoul
The true answer for both Clintons is: they do nothing but talk your ears off.

That just about sums it all up perfectly.

41 posted on 02/02/2006 3:59:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Moosilauke

You heard it here first (well, maybe not) . . . the 2008 campaign is going to be a "throwback election" from the early 1800s -- contested between Virginians Mark Warner and George Allen.


42 posted on 02/02/2006 4:02:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Graymatter
If Edwards couldn't even beat John Kerry in 2004, he isn't going to be a credible candidate in 2008. Edwards has one defining attribute that is an enormous handicap in a presidential election . . . he was the VP candidate on a previous losing ticket. A candidate who is mentally retarded has a better chance of getting elected to the White House than a candidate with this kind of track record.

It's worth noting that since World War II, the only candidates to secure their party's nomination for a presidential election after previously losing as a VP candidate were Bob Dole (ran in 1996 after losing in 1976 as Ford's running mate) and Walter Mondale (ran in 1984 after losing in 1980 as Carter's running mate). It's no coincidence that they ended up being two of the worst presidential candidates in recent memory.

43 posted on 02/02/2006 4:15:25 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Graymatter
One more thing . . .

Edwards may seem young and dynamic to you, but people in the media who covered his 2004 campaign for the Democratic nomination later described him as thoroughly dull and mediocre. The consensus among them was that hearing his "two Americas" campaign speech once would have been enough -- but hearing the same damn speech several times every day for weeks and months at a time made them wonder if the guy ever had an original thought in his head.

44 posted on 02/02/2006 4:18:33 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Soul Seeker
Triangulation is dead, though

That's exactly the reason she won't win. The cynical, focus-grouped approach of the 90's doesn't work anymore. Hillary will take a poll to determine what to eat for breakfast but that kind of manipulation won't attract the moonbats who will choose the next nominee.

Many here laugh at Al Gore and I admit I find him comical as well but he is very clever and knows exactly what he is doing. He has effectively positioned himself as the anti-Hillary, the candidate of the true believers and not of the ambitious cynics. That's why he'll be the nominee.

And don't underestimate him come November, either. The MSM will do everything in their power to elect him and recall that tens of millions of Americans have already voted for the guy for President so that psychological barrier has already been overcome.

45 posted on 02/02/2006 4:20:40 PM PST by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: xkaydet65
Sad thing for the country is she probably is the sanest Dem.

Actually, believe it or not, Joe Biden is the sanest person among the credible presidential candidates. If you knew for a fact that the Dems would win in '08 you would have to hope he got the nomination. And what a sad statement about the state of the Democratic party that is.

46 posted on 02/02/2006 4:24:22 PM PST by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Alberta's Child

Please don't confuse me with a Democrat. Edwards does NOT seem young and dynamic to me. I was writing about the impression he makes on Democrats.


47 posted on 02/02/2006 4:56:54 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Jaysun
Poor Hillary. Even if she's able to convince people that she's not a Communist, she'll never be able to shed that "moth-eaten b*tch" look.

Worse yet, she'll never be able to avoid the fact the we would dread to have the Big Creep in the Whitehouse again.

48 posted on 02/02/2006 4:59:56 PM PST by BunnySlippers (ìÏâ¡ëfêHé`äŸ)
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To: FerdieMurphy

"Cindy Sheehan, spanked her in California..."

Must have been in San Francisco.


49 posted on 02/02/2006 5:04:29 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
There was a DU thread the other night about Bush commenting that Hillary would be a 'formidable opponent'. The DUmmies immediately said that Bush was trying to push the democRats into nominating Hillary. Some of them were complaining that Bush wouldn't even let them select their own nominee. The consensus was that the Republicans would just LOVE for Hillary to be the democRat nominee.

gitmo

50 posted on 02/02/2006 5:12:14 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Graymatter

Just one problem with Edwards-he's a phoney-baloney and it's glaringly apparent. The public won't buy it...


51 posted on 02/02/2006 5:13:13 PM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: mozarky2

Yeah that's what we all said about Clinton until November 1992. People are just too smart to vote for that. But they did, twice, and look how many voted for his veep after that. And how many voted for Kerry after that.
They've got to pick someone and Edwards has less baggage than any other candidate.


52 posted on 02/02/2006 5:25:01 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: mc5cents

oooooo, scary democrats.


53 posted on 02/02/2006 5:37:47 PM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: Alberta's Child

The only place Hillary does well is in NY. Hope she runs and loses her seat and her aspirations to become the next president.


54 posted on 02/02/2006 5:46:15 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Verginius Rufus
If her negative numbers stay that high, she'll have to engineer a third-party candidacy to make it into the White House. After all, 57% of Americans did not vote for Bill Clinton in 1992.

And just when, is she going to accomplish this feat? It would have to be soon, to have any credibility whatever. To attempt it after she's won the nomination is a non-starter. Nobody would buy it...

the infowarrior

55 posted on 02/02/2006 5:54:57 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: b4its2late

Garbage is all they have, so garbage recycle they will.


56 posted on 02/02/2006 5:57:06 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

James Carville and all the people who the Arkansas mafia forgot to kill.


57 posted on 02/02/2006 6:10:02 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: jalisco555

Maybe Al Gore will cleverly pick a day when it's 20 below in New York to deliver his 'global warming' rant...If Orca the killer whale Ted stumps for him that'll be the ribbon on the package!
Al? Don't get caught inthe strainer as you go down the drain...Again.


58 posted on 02/02/2006 6:11:44 PM PST by traitorsclaw
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To: jalisco555

"The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that the Dems will nominate Al Gore again."

There are three factions:

1. Kennedy - Kerry
2. Clinton - Media
3. Dean - Gore

This is going to be a dog fight. Meanwhile the best bet for the RATS to take the WH in 2008 rests with none of them. Each one is more radical Marxist than the next and it already has been shown that the lunatic fringe is the base.

So my bet would be if Warner/Richardson can get out of the gate, they would have the best chance of winning in 08. Against them I would put Allen/Coburn.

Now let them debate ideas and give us a Presidential race we can enjoy without the anger and lies.


59 posted on 02/02/2006 6:13:23 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Some people will believe Hillary's ploy. These are the same people who watch daytime TV and think Ted Kennedy is a moderate.


Unseal her college dissertation and she's COOKED 212degrees F>!!!
60 posted on 02/02/2006 6:13:51 PM PST by danamco
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