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| Feb 1, 2006
Posted on 02/01/2006 3:42:08 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: knightshadow
Darn. Post #3 was directed to you. Just noticed, looking for something else I wrote. :-/
141
posted on
02/01/2006 10:49:30 PM PST
by
cgk
(I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
To: Travis McGee
Dang, you're right. I guess everyone ignored the incorrect metric equivalent, and just read right past it.
142
posted on
02/02/2006 2:56:14 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: ExSoldier
The only reason to use a handgun in combat is to fight your way to an available rifle.
143
posted on
02/02/2006 3:26:45 AM PST
by
P8riot
(When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
To: P8riot
Cliches at times have no application.
To: DeaconNoGood
H&K is in a peck of financial trouble at the moment, I'll bet we can get a deal. The USP is (believe it or not) based on the 1911 design but offers many improvements for today's soldier (products of the public schools). It's difficult to teach trigger sensitivity and muzzle awareness in a high pressure situation like urban warfare where troops might be bunched up before entering rooms, etc. That's where the DA or DAO variations come in handy. Same with the "hammer drop" feature on the H&K. I'm a former Infantry Captain and an NRA Instructor, so I've seen my share of the
wayward muzzle syndrome! Your idea of let anybody buy their own is a logistics and survival nightmare. Picture this scenario:
It's dark inside the Iraqi building. No power. The firefight is raging. Ammo is running low and the tight quarters often require use of a handgun. The squad is pinned down in one tiny corner, waiting for the back up to arrive and this little exchange takes place among the squad members:
Awww crap! I musta dropped my mags in the corridor! Anybody got a spare for an H&K USP?
Not me! I've got a ParaOrdnance.
Not me! I've got a 1911!
Not me! I've got a Beretta 8045
Not me! I've got a Sig P220.
Get the picture?
I very much doubt it would go like this: We told you not to get that damn Kraut gun! We've all got Colts and now you're stuck! Based on the overriding perception of the troops that if the army issues it you can do better in the private sector.
To: yarddog
To: mad_as_he$$
What did the tunnel rats use? Is that the right term? The guys who had brass balls and went into the tunnels...
147
posted on
02/02/2006 5:06:59 AM PST
by
Simo Hayha
(I miss the old days, when a man would build a skyscraper just to keep from being hit with a shovel.)
To: Simo Hayha
Usually a 45 and/or a pump shotgun. Mostly a Remington 870 or some version of it. There were many Ithica 12 ga pumps around also.
148
posted on
02/02/2006 5:11:50 AM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
(Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
To: al baby
Boy! I'd like to see those jigglies jiggle when firing off that drum......
149
posted on
02/02/2006 5:21:59 AM PST
by
Gaffer
To: Xenophobic Alien
150
posted on
02/02/2006 5:29:18 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: Scribbz
I have a .40 (glock) and it kicks like a mule. My daughter has been shooting my Glock 27 since she was eleven.
She never complained about recoil.
151
posted on
02/02/2006 5:35:48 AM PST
by
Eaker
(My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
To: John Jorsett
152
posted on
02/02/2006 5:36:15 AM PST
by
G Larry
(Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
To: XeniaSt
I have a GLOCK 30 (great, great gun), but mine is the standard black. Whered you get the brown part?
To: Xenophobic Alien
Addendum:
![Image hosting by Photobucket](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/RGScott/SA1911A1.jpg)
It fits my hand nicely too. I use Federal Hydrashock 230 grain +P HST.
154
posted on
02/02/2006 5:52:18 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: Travis McGee
I noticed the error but wasn't sure exactly how close to 9mm a .357 diameter bullet was. Turns out it is 9.067mm. He may have meant to say 9.065mm and left out a zero.
155
posted on
02/02/2006 5:55:05 AM PST
by
yarddog
To: John Jorsett
Had a colt delta -elite in 10mm. at time it was supposed be hot new gun. what a piece of junk. I now love my SW #29 44mag,topped w/3x burris scope.
156
posted on
02/02/2006 6:00:39 AM PST
by
weldAllday
("Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas")
To: Shooter 2.5
The grips on that puppy are awesome 2.5 !~
Carbon fiber ?
157
posted on
02/02/2006 6:12:31 AM PST
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
To: John Jorsett
Thank the good lord that they brought this old workhorse back. Now if they will just bring back the BAR or a good replacement for it, I would be even happier. Large caliber heavy hitting rounds make a hell of alot more sense than these "metrosexual bullets" we seem to issue our troops these days.
158
posted on
02/02/2006 6:14:36 AM PST
by
Leatherneck_MT
(An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
To: Travis McGee; Eaker
Good catch.....Eaker should have caught that error while I was at work !.........:o)
159
posted on
02/02/2006 6:30:22 AM PST
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
To: Secret Agent Man
I would assume that isn't a working silencer? Quite a bit of legal hoops to jump thru for a real one...
Nope it's a real one. It's a SWR HEMS .45 suppressor.
www.swrmfg.com makes them. The paperwork and federal tax hooplah took about 6 months but it's been worth it.
160
posted on
02/02/2006 6:45:45 AM PST
by
manglor
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