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Buyers Scour eBay For Data-Rich Hard Drives
TechWeb News ^ | Jan 30, 2006 02:40 PM | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 01/31/2006 3:10:34 PM PST by Lokibob

 
 
Buyers Scour eBay For Data-Rich Hard Drives

They're looking for drives that haven't been wiped clean and contain valuable data.




Buyers on eBay troll the online auction site for used drives in the hope that the platters haven't been wiped clean and contain valuable data, including credit card numbers, a researcher said Monday.

Simson Garfinkel, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard's Center for Research on Computation and Society, has been buying used hard drives on eBay since 2001, then analyzing the data he finds on some of the devices.

Of the 236 drives Garfinkel bought, 7 contained more than 300 recoverable credit card numbers; one from had more than 11,000 unique account numbers that he could retrieve.

That's because only 19 percent of drives he acquired had been wiped clean. The majority of previous owners had either not touched the drives or had only run the DOS commands FDISK and FORMAT, which actually leave data on the drive so users with simple diagnostic tools can read the information.

Some eBay buyers are sniffing for such drives. "I think that many drives sell for more than their market value," on eBay, Garfinkel said in an e-mail interview with TechWeb. The only explanation: they're playing the possibilities, and expect there's data on some of the drives they buy.

Garfinkel even tracked down the original owners of the 7 credit card-packed drives, using basic detective work such as analyzing the most common e-mail addresses on the platter and/or reviewing intact Word documents for clues.

The drive with 11,609 unique credit card numbers came from a medical center, which had also disposed of another drive with 81 additional numbers that Garfinkel purchased. Other drives came from an ATM (with 827 unique numbers), a supermarket (1,356 numbers), and an auto dealerships (498 numbers).

By Garfinkel's calculations, about 1,000 used drives are sold daily on eBay. Using his findings -- 3 percent of the drives he purchased contained more than 300 recoverable credit card numbers -- about 30 of those devices have confidential financial information.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diskdrive; ebay; identitytheft
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To: Spanaway Lori
Yes, they are. I fix laptops, and got a lot of hard drives from an eBay auction. I didn't do any special enhanced recovery techniques on any of them, but I do review them to see what's on them. I got one that had been in a lawyer's laptop computer, it had his name, address, phone numbers, even stuff about his parents in there, as well as a letter he had written to his pastor.

It also had images in the browser cache that showed he liked to go to "spanking" sites. I was tempted to sell him back the hard drive, but I did a low level format on it instead.

21 posted on 01/31/2006 3:26:45 PM PST by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: wireman

How much for a big laptop drive? The biggest ones I have are 20 giggers.


22 posted on 01/31/2006 3:26:55 PM PST by djf
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To: Lokibob

When this old POS computer of mine bites the dust thats what I intend to do, Take a hammer to the hard drive.


23 posted on 01/31/2006 3:26:55 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Temple Owl

ping


24 posted on 01/31/2006 3:27:28 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Go onto the ebay forums and copy and paste what you wrote here. they are good at giving advice. you can retract or change/edit your feedback you provided them. DO NOT pay them anything; the person is a scammer and is probably going to resell it on ebay under a different ID


25 posted on 01/31/2006 3:27:46 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: wireman

"And (aside from criminals) why would anybody buy one?"

They want to score an unused 1997-99 FR User ID/password so everyone will stop calling them a "newbie" or "troll". :)


26 posted on 01/31/2006 3:28:53 PM PST by jdm
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To: spinestein
"Stick a big speaker magnet to it."

Reminds me of the time about 15 years ago when I got into work my boss had left an assignment for me. He wanted me to take the figures he had worked on (for a few hours) and use them on the proposal we were working on. There was his work, on one of those old 5-1/4" floppies, stuck to my overhead file with a big old kitchen magnet.

He thought I was a hero because I found it on his hard drive. Nice guy but dumb.

27 posted on 01/31/2006 3:29:12 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

The male Bride of Frankenstein.


28 posted on 01/31/2006 3:29:16 PM PST by BunnySlippers (ìÏâ¡ëfêHé`äŸ)
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To: Lokibob

Zero writing utility.


29 posted on 01/31/2006 3:29:50 PM PST by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: Lokibob
I bought a used PC two years ago in a second-hand store in Dallas,TX. When I got it home and booted the PC, it came up to Windows, and had been a desktop PC at "IBM" in a local office. Had tons of information, including sales, internal system development info, and personal data. I called the IBM office and spoke to a tech person and he told me it was impossible and hung up on me. I made several calls to IBM corp and eventually got to a manager type. When I started reading info to her she went nuts. Told me it was impossible that I bought that PC at a local second-hand store. Anyway, IBM sent someone to my home to retrieve the PC along with a check. Never heard another word...
30 posted on 01/31/2006 3:30:10 PM PST by devane617 (An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: spinestein
Stick a big speaker magnet to it.

It would have to be a REALLY strong magnet. Hard drive heads generate extremely powerful magnetic fields over a very small area very close to the surface of the disk. On such drives, a magnetic field can be strong enough to spin the platter without being strong enough to damage any data on it (indeed, some drives utilize this fact to avoid the need for a separate motor).

31 posted on 01/31/2006 3:30:23 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Lokibob
"I think that many drives sell for more than their market value,"

Hmmm... one could fish for a hungry buyer with a cheap drive and the right ad.

32 posted on 01/31/2006 3:31:26 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Where exactly do I go to post the information? I've already contacted Ebay 2-3 times and they are doing nothing. I need some help on this one.


33 posted on 01/31/2006 3:33:04 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

http://livechat.ebay.com/Chat/servlet/AppMain?grp=Activation&__lFILE=index.jsp&PlacementID=000_ActivationInactiveHP

and

http://pages.ebay.com/community/answercenter/index.html

in the second one you can post the same thing in any number of forums that apply.


34 posted on 01/31/2006 3:35:43 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Lokibob
Simson Garfinkel


35 posted on 01/31/2006 3:37:04 PM PST by eyespysomething (For you to insult me, I must first value your opinion.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

he's the one that sings el computero pasa

I'd rather be a hard dive than a floppy
yes i would
if i only could
i surely would


36 posted on 01/31/2006 3:37:44 PM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims never stopped. a 2010 useless reply odyssey.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If he leaves you a neg, add to the feedback you have already left. You can make additional comments. I would write something about looking for a refund on a good product as blackmail.

Only do it if he negs you. If he does, you add that to his feedback. I can just about guarantee he will want to do a mutual removal.


37 posted on 01/31/2006 3:38:58 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I got one off ebay not long ago for a few bucks, was in perfect condition.

You got lucky!

38 posted on 01/31/2006 3:40:28 PM PST by wireman
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Here is a neutral I received:
 
Seller claimed I never paid him, but I did. Eventually received item.
Buyer   XXXXXXX   Dec-25-05 11:43  XXXXXXXXX  
 
Reply by me 11/7 echeck rec'd, 11/11 check clears, 11/11 item shipped, no customer contact  Dec-26-05 17:34
 
Take your negative, dont pay him a penny, then when you get your neg, put a reply below it.  Buyers read the negatives and the repies.  Keep the reply factual like "buyer claimed defective, wanted $80 to repair.  Offered refund, buyed didn't accept."  Something like that, keep it factual and not bitter.  Don't attack him just state facts.
 
BTW, my neutral was from an oriental customer, too.

39 posted on 01/31/2006 3:41:16 PM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Lokibob

Reminds me of a guy in our town who got busted because he took his computer in to get it fixed.


40 posted on 01/31/2006 3:41:48 PM PST by tiki
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