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Buyers Scour eBay For Data-Rich Hard Drives
TechWeb News ^ | Jan 30, 2006 02:40 PM | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 01/31/2006 3:10:34 PM PST by Lokibob

 
 
Buyers Scour eBay For Data-Rich Hard Drives

They're looking for drives that haven't been wiped clean and contain valuable data.




Buyers on eBay troll the online auction site for used drives in the hope that the platters haven't been wiped clean and contain valuable data, including credit card numbers, a researcher said Monday.

Simson Garfinkel, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard's Center for Research on Computation and Society, has been buying used hard drives on eBay since 2001, then analyzing the data he finds on some of the devices.

Of the 236 drives Garfinkel bought, 7 contained more than 300 recoverable credit card numbers; one from had more than 11,000 unique account numbers that he could retrieve.

That's because only 19 percent of drives he acquired had been wiped clean. The majority of previous owners had either not touched the drives or had only run the DOS commands FDISK and FORMAT, which actually leave data on the drive so users with simple diagnostic tools can read the information.

Some eBay buyers are sniffing for such drives. "I think that many drives sell for more than their market value," on eBay, Garfinkel said in an e-mail interview with TechWeb. The only explanation: they're playing the possibilities, and expect there's data on some of the drives they buy.

Garfinkel even tracked down the original owners of the 7 credit card-packed drives, using basic detective work such as analyzing the most common e-mail addresses on the platter and/or reviewing intact Word documents for clues.

The drive with 11,609 unique credit card numbers came from a medical center, which had also disposed of another drive with 81 additional numbers that Garfinkel purchased. Other drives came from an ATM (with 827 unique numbers), a supermarket (1,356 numbers), and an auto dealerships (498 numbers).

By Garfinkel's calculations, about 1,000 used drives are sold daily on eBay. Using his findings -- 3 percent of the drives he purchased contained more than 300 recoverable credit card numbers -- about 30 of those devices have confidential financial information.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diskdrive; ebay; identitytheft
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Scares me.

Best way to clean a hard drive is with a 5 lb sledgehammer.

1 posted on 01/31/2006 3:10:36 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: Lokibob

Would a bonfire work?


2 posted on 01/31/2006 3:12:25 PM PST by doug from upland (INDICTING HILLARY -- now that is something that's good for America)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


3 posted on 01/31/2006 3:13:47 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: Lokibob

Yeah, but after the sledgehammer reformat you don't get as much on eBay for it.


4 posted on 01/31/2006 3:14:50 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Lokibob

My old hard drives are removed from the machine prior to disposal of the machine. The drive is then burned in a fire.
Then it goes into the trash after I have smashed it with a sledge hammer.


5 posted on 01/31/2006 3:15:14 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: Lokibob

Agreed. Although you might want to use an overwrite program first.


6 posted on 01/31/2006 3:16:04 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Lokibob
Simson Garfinkel, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard's Center for Research on Computation and Society

That's a long way from "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme." Is he the short one or the one with the kinky hair?

7 posted on 01/31/2006 3:17:35 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Lokibob
Some eBay buyers are sniffing for such drives. "I think that many drives sell for more than their market value," on eBay, Garfinkel said

Hmmmm... that just gave me a brain storm to unload a bunch of paperweight old scsi drives.

"Used drives from credit card validation and processing server. Drives have been pulled without being wiped."

LOL!

8 posted on 01/31/2006 3:18:55 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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Simson Garfinkel, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard's Center for Research on Computation and Society

Simson Garfinkel, computer geek.

Ya' just know the other kids made fun of him. ;-)

9 posted on 01/31/2006 3:19:33 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Lokibob

Stick a big speaker magnet to it.


10 posted on 01/31/2006 3:20:30 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: AmericaUnited

I was thinking the same thing--I used to work in the drive biz and have a lot of old "paperweights" sitting in boxes.


11 posted on 01/31/2006 3:20:54 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Lokibob

A company donated some computers to an old folks center.
The hard drive were erased on all of the working computers.
On the two that had problems (power supplies) the hard drives were not erased. Both had full info on their customers.
Instead of calling the company to ask what to do with their data, I did a low level format of the drives.


12 posted on 01/31/2006 3:21:21 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: ShadowAce

FYI...tech ping.


13 posted on 01/31/2006 3:21:24 PM PST by jdm
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To: Lokibob

Are people really that dumb?


14 posted on 01/31/2006 3:22:40 PM PST by Just Lori (Oh my soul, be prepared to meet Him who knows how to ask questions.)
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To: Lokibob
From Staples.com - NEW Maxtor 60GB 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.99

Why would anybody sell a used hard drive? And (aside from criminals) why would anybody buy one?

15 posted on 01/31/2006 3:23:00 PM PST by wireman
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To: Lokibob

Use SpinRite to recover data off the drives you buy :)

Use Gateways GWSCAN.exe to write zeroes to a drive before you either sell or format it.


16 posted on 01/31/2006 3:23:06 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Yo-Yo
Yeah, but after the sledgehammer reformat you don't get as much on eBay for it.

I don't understand the market for used hard drives, at least not for consumer-level machines. Most consumer-level hard drives have a finite useful lifetime, and newer hard drives keep getting bigger and bigger. Why would anyone (other than someone hoping for some illicit data) be willing to pay enough for a year-old hard drive to make it worth selling?

17 posted on 01/31/2006 3:23:44 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: doug from upland
"Would a bonfire work?"

LOL. I always crash-land a Cessna into mine.
18 posted on 01/31/2006 3:24:15 PM PST by jdm
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To: Lokibob
As a matter of fact, ebayers, I need help. A Chinese fellow living in Atlanta bought a Canon EOS A2E from me recently. I sell items "as is" with no refunds. I also have a policy of the buyer leaving feedback FIRST, then I leave feedback. Well, this fellow didn't leave feedback for over a month. So, I assumed (stupidly) that he was happy with the purchase and left him positive feedback (he paid). My listing policy also clearly states to e-mail me and let me know about problems before leaving feedback. He didn't respond UNTIL I carelessly left him a positive.

The very next day he sent an e-mail complaining about two "defects" and then says it will cost $80 to fix it (he only paid $118 for the camera -- dirt cheap), but it was a minor problem so he would settle for a $40 refund. After e-mail discussion, he now will settle for $30 (ha ha) as he found the point focus magnetic contact button and installed it himself. I've suggested he leave feedback for me first and then I'll send the "funds" but he is demanding the funds be sent first....Mexican standoff. How is it that these guys are so hard core?

I believe I'll just take my negative (only my second one) and let it go having learned a hard lesson. This fellow is Chinese and I knew better than to trust him. I am deeply disappointed in the lack of character of some people I have to deal with these days. Any suggestions? It would be nice to have a little help from a Freeper in Atlanta.

19 posted on 01/31/2006 3:24:45 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: wireman

Hard to find new ata 66 scsi drives for new from dealers; I got one off ebay not long ago for a few bucks, was in perfect condition.


20 posted on 01/31/2006 3:25:20 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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