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Darwinist Ideologues Are on the Run
Human Events Online ^ | Jan 31, 2006 | Allan H. Ryskind

Posted on 01/30/2006 10:27:35 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow

The two scariest words in the English language? Intelligent Design! That phrase tends to produce a nasty rash and night sweats among our elitist class.

Should some impressionable teenager ever hear those words from a public school teacher, we are led to believe, that student may embrace a secular heresy: that some intelligent force or energy, maybe even a god, rather than Darwinian blind chance, has been responsible for the gazillions of magnificently designed life forms that populate our privileged planet.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist; delusionalnutjobs; evolution; idiocy; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; whataloadoffeces
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To: labette

Good blog, thanks for the link.


921 posted on 02/02/2006 5:31:44 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: labette

Link to Ichneumon's blogger where he tells all.

I guess this make you a .... LIAR... for God!

922 posted on 02/02/2006 5:34:36 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: darbymcgill
[All I did was post the actual quotes which longshadow had alluded to. Period. I didn't even provide any comment of my own.]

Your response was to #658.

Yes, just as I already mentioned.

Please re-read #2 as you say for comprehension.

I did.

And you want us to believe post #719 has nothing to do with #658.

Get a grip -- I didn't say it had "nothing to do with #658" -- I already mentioned that it was a reply to that post, of *course* it had "something to do" with it. Sheesh.

That doesn't, however, justify the strange and bizarre things you managed to read into the mere fact that I replied by posting the quote he was describing especially since I did so without comment. I was providing historical context, not arguing a case for or against linking versus pasting, nor "attacking" the author of the quotes, nor anything else you've managed to fantasize about my post.

Whatever your emotional issues are which cause you to be able to "read" all sorts of things into the simple posting of a quote that had been mentioned, please work them out before you reply again.

I was born at night, but not last night....

That's not how it appears.

[We didn't get Gore3000 banned, with or without a conspiracy.]

Now who's hallucinating?

You are, as I've already documented.

Please post where I said you were part of the conspiracy. In other words as you say so often...

"We" being Freepers. As I already documented, and you've failed to acknowledge, Gore3000 was banned not as the result of any "conspiracy", but because he self-destructed in a very public and foolhardy way.

923 posted on 02/02/2006 5:41:06 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: ml1954
"I guess this make you a .... LIAR... for God!"

If you are referring to the blogger, take it up with him.
If you are referring to my tagline, take it up with my Master.
If you are referring to me personally, I've been called much worse by much better.

924 posted on 02/02/2006 5:44:46 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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To: labette

If you are referring to the blogger, take it up with him.

If you are referring to my tagline, take it up with my Master.

If you are referring to me personally, I've been called much worse by much better.

I was unsure to which I referred and now I'm not.

925 posted on 02/02/2006 5:51:19 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: darbymcgill; Ichneumon; longshadow
Ich: We didn't get Gore3000 banned, with or without a conspiracy.

darbymcgill: Now who's hallucinating? Please post where I said you were part of the conspiracy.

You're right. No one will ever steal my thunder when it comes to the G3K banning conspiracy. I worked long and hard on that one and no one can ever take it away from me. To wit:

Gore3000 to JimRob:
The next post of mine which was deleted was the one that got this thread locked - my daring to point to the truth about one of the worst most disgusting characters on FR who posted a totally slanderous missive which I hereby demand be removed at post# 2337. It seems that the atheist slanderers are allowed to do as they please while the Christians who try to defend themselves are not allowed to defend themselves. My post# 2341 said:

To: whattajoke


I'd just like to publicly thank whomever is/was responsible for the bannings of the previously mentioned FReepers and to say that that is a big part of the reason I've doubled my FR donation this quarter.

Your own words show that you do not want honest discussion, you just want opponents banned and silenced - like the people we are supposedly fighting against on this FreeRepublic - the Clintonites, Communists,and fascists who strive to take away our freedom. As usual you make up total lies about people. In spite of your avowed interest in science, it would be very hard to find any post by you which shows any knowledge of it. All your posts are the same as this, slimy attacks on those who disagree with the atheistic theory of evolution and joy at seeing Christians banned.

2,341 posted on 10/13/2003 7:27 AM PDT by gore3000 ("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2337 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] To: All

The small cadre of us who were specifically singled out by our delusional friend ("the permanent banning of Patrick Henry, Vade Retro, Junior, whattajoke and Ogmios") take this very seriously. Ichneumon, for all his tireless work, still doesn't know the secret handshake.
926 posted on 02/02/2006 5:52:20 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke
I'd just like to publicly thank whomever is/was responsible for the bannings of the previously mentioned FReepers and to say that that is a big part of the reason I've doubled my FR donation this quarter.

Wow. A one sentence, one post conspiracy. And that's all it took to get G3k banned? I'm impressed.

Take a bow....

;-)

927 posted on 02/02/2006 5:59:43 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: ml1954; labette
I was unsure to which I referred and now I'm not.

We'll *I"m* still confused. I don't see what prompted your accusation against labette. Was it based on some past dispute? Because it doesn't seem to me that his post #920 would justify it.

928 posted on 02/02/2006 6:01:55 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: ml1954
In important matters, we should take time to be "sure".

I don't know how you were raised, but calling someone a liar without being "sure" about it can be an exciting experience where I come from.

929 posted on 02/02/2006 6:04:41 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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To: Ichneumon; labette

We'll *I"m* still confused. I don't see what prompted your accusation against labette. Was it based on some past dispute? Because it doesn't seem to me that his post #920 would justify it.

You're right and I apologize. I mistook/misread labette's post. Sorry labette.

930 posted on 02/02/2006 6:09:17 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: ml1954
Forget about it.
I suppose I had it coming for putting my hand in a dogfight.
931 posted on 02/02/2006 6:12:48 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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To: labette
I suppose I had it coming for putting my hand in a dogfight.

Woof!

932 posted on 02/02/2006 6:30:39 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Because the normal methods of doing science involve *not* arbitrarily "adopting certain axiomatic statements or principles."

When an individual observer adopts an axiomatic principle it is not arbitrary from the standpoint of the observer. It may, however, be arbitrary in view of all that resides beyond the observer's experience.

I can understand to some degree why intelligent design may not be axiomatic to every observer outside of myself. I can even understand to some degree how one could arrive at other means of expressing the clearly apparent diversity that attends the physical world. What escapes me is how one individual, or group of individuals, considers it a matter of legal consequence to have his own viewpoint proscribed by federal judges to the exclusion of those who may be of a different mind.

May I ask why you think the federal government should enforce non-theistic thought in a public context? May I ask how such a role for federal government comports with conservative principles in general and the founding principles of this nation in particular? IMO it should be a hallmark of conservative principles to welcome free expression and free inquiry. Or does free inquiry cease where science begins?

Thank you.

933 posted on 02/02/2006 6:36:26 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Ichneumon; labette

Woof!

No doubt his bite is worse than mine.

934 posted on 02/02/2006 6:39:32 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: ml1954

Woof at warp speed?


935 posted on 02/02/2006 6:41:14 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Or does free inquiry cease where science begins?

Where science begins we begin to rely on data, fact, rigorous testing of hypotheses, and theory building.

We leave behind... Well, Heinlein said it best.

What are the facts? Again and again and again—what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars foretell," avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable "verdict of history"--what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!

Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973


936 posted on 02/02/2006 6:52:12 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
What escapes me is how one individual, or group of individuals, considers it a matter of legal consequence to have his own viewpoint proscribed by federal judges to the exclusion of those who may be of a different mind.

I'm confused, why would someone want to proscribe their own viewpoint, and who do you imagine is doing so? And how does one proscribe a viewpoint to the exclusion of others? Isn't that rather an oxymoron, like hiding yourself in an attempt to make other people less visible?

May I ask why you think the federal government should enforce non-theistic thought in a public context?

May I ask why you think I think that? I don't.

May I ask how such a role for federal government comports with conservative principles in general and the founding principles of this nation in particular?

It doesn't, which is why I don't hold such a position.

IMO it should be a hallmark of conservative principles to welcome free expression and free inquiry. Or does free inquiry cease where science begins?

Not at all.

937 posted on 02/02/2006 6:53:23 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: whattajoke

I remember those heady days. I was number five with a bullet over at DU...


938 posted on 02/02/2006 6:58:19 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: ml1954; Doctor Stochastic; PatrickHenry; Coyoteman; longshadow; whattajoke; Lurking Libertarian; ...
Dogfight placemarker.

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939 posted on 02/02/2006 7:00:57 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

940 posted on 02/02/2006 7:06:14 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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