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KFI's Bill Handel squares off with CAIR over offending them
The Drudge Report ^ | 1/29/06 | Drudge

Posted on 01/30/2006 7:47:16 AM PST by Yaelle

LOS ANGELES RADIO STATION SQUARES-OFF WITH MUSLIM GROUP Mon Jan 30 2006 10:10:49 ET

Los Angeles's top talkradio station is under fire from a Muslim civil liberties group because of comments made earlier this month by morning man Bill Handel. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has demanded an apology from Handel for making fun of a stampede that killed hundreds of Muslims during an annual pilgrimage.

But the station and Handel are set to fire back, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Handel will apologize IF the Council on American-Islamic Relations:

1) Decries all acts of terror (described specifically, not generally)

2) Agrees that Israel is a sovereign nation with the right to defensible borders

3) CAIR has no ties of any sort, financially or otherwise, to any terror orgs or individiuals.

MANAGEMENT STATEMENT

KFI-AM does not condone making light of the deaths of people engaged in religious observances. We regret that listeners found the comments of one of our on-air hosts to be insensitive. KFI does not censor its hosts, nor does it tell them what to say or not to say. KFI is a strong and passionate believer in 1st amendment rights and that is at the very core of this radio station.

Developing...


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KEYWORDS: billhandel; cair; free; hajj; handel; islam; kfi; mecca; muslim; salamalmarayati; speech; talkradio; terrorism
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To: LS
"Huh? So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims? Pretty shallow thinking."

Yep! I'm a "shallow" free thinking son of a bitch with a distinct perverted sense of humour.
41 posted on 01/30/2006 4:54:38 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: LS

What I wrote: "Mocking muslims' self-destructing during a Lemming-esque STAMPEDE is deserved no matter the "bad taste". Let's focus on reality and the truth of the matter, and not on delusional and politically-correct retractions serving terrorist muslims. Muslim/Islamics are dangerously weird, truth is..."

You wrote: "Huh? So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims? Pretty shallow thinking."

My operative word is "weird" not "funny."


42 posted on 01/30/2006 5:03:03 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: Yaelle
Heads up! He is on John and Ken's show right now talking about it! www.kfi640.com
43 posted on 01/30/2006 5:25:04 PM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Old Seadog

He sure is outspoken. Could it be his Latino heritage?


44 posted on 01/30/2006 5:27:21 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Yaelle

Where can I download the audio of this "Hajj report"?


45 posted on 01/30/2006 5:28:07 PM PST by Alouette (Pray for Israel: Psalms of the Day: 1-9.)
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To: Yaelle

ping for later


46 posted on 01/30/2006 5:35:47 PM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: Yaelle
Here is an audio link to Bill's terms for apology.

Audio here

47 posted on 01/30/2006 7:19:28 PM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
ON THE NET...

DANIEL PIPES.org - Weblog: "CAIR's LEGAL TRIBULATIONS"

KFI640.com: "HandelCAIRresponse"  (mp3) (January 30, 2006)

WorldNetDaily.com: "SCHOOL ALLOWS MUSLIMS TO PRAY  Reverses policy after confrontation with CAIR" (January 26, 2006)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "CAIR, ACLU SUE TO STOP DOMESTIC SPYING PROGRAM" (ARTICLE SNIPPET:  "The Detroit suit, which also names the NSA, was filed by the ACLU, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Greenpeace and several individuals.") (January 17, 2006)
WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR ISSUES U.S. 'TRAVEL ADVISORY'" (December 21, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AMERICANS AGAINST HATE.com): "CAIR-FL SPOKESMAN SAYS 'NOTHING IMMORAL' ABOUT ISLAMIC JIHAD" (December 13, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "KAUFMAN AND EPSTEIN: CAIR HOTEL HELL" (December 2, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "D.C. WATSON: DOUBLE-CROSS" (November 14, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CAIR CALLS FOR CALM IN FRANCE" by Melanie Hunter (November 8, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "THE LIES ESCALATE" (November 13, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "CAIR DEFAMES ME AGAIN" (November 9, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "CAIR GOES AFTER ME" (November 8, 2005)

DANIEL PIPES.org - Weblog: "CAIR ACCEPTED AS 'MAINSTREAM'" (January 21, 2004) (UPDATED: October 25, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CONGRESS URGED TO RECOGNIZE THE BEGINNING OF RAMADAN" (September 26, 2005)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "WHOSE SIDE IS CAIR ON?" by Andrew Whitehead (September 21, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org - DHIMMI WATCH: "DC Watson: CAIR: TRIVIALIZING 9/11 FOR THE SAKE OF ISLAM?" (September 18, 2005)

DanielPipes.org (FrontPageMagazine.com): "WHY CORPORATIONS FUND RADICAL ISLAM" by Daniel Pipes (September 2, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "MPAC, CAIR, ISNA FEEL EXCLUDED FROM THE STRUGGLE AGAINST TERRORISM" (August 30, 2005)

MichNews.com: "ACLU ALLIANCE WITH CAIR?" -Column by Sher Zieve (August 26, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CAIR HAILS FIRING OF MICHAEL GRAHAM" by Randy Hall (August 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "CAIR 1, FREE SPEECH 0" -Column by Joel Mowbray (August 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "WELL, THEY GOT ME..." -Column by Michael Graham (August 22, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (IndyStar): "CAIR, CACLU SUE GOV'T OVER BORDER SCRUTINY" (April 24, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "CAIR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN 9/11 TERROR LAWSUIT" (December 30, 2004) (NOTE: SEE AUGUST 15, 2005 UPDATE)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "CAIR FOUNDED BY 'ISLAMIST TERRORISTS'?" by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha (July 28, 2005)

TheCounterterrorism Blog: "WALID PHARES: CAIR MUST CONDEMN AL QAIDA AND JIHADISM.." (July 28, 2005)

AMERICAN DAILY.com: "CAIR DISLIKES FREE SPEECH ON RADIO" by Pete Fisher (July 26, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR TO GOP: REPUDIATE TANCREDO Upset by radio discussion about bombing Mecca" (July 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "THE MUSLIM HATE CRIME THAT WASN'T" -Column by Michelle Malkin (July 6, 2005)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CAIRing for Sami Al-Arian" by Joe Kaufman (June 22, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "ISLAMIC GROUP CALLS FOR USE OF KORAN TO TAKE OATH" by Melanie Hunter (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "An Islamic civil rights and advocacy group is calling on North Carolina judges to allow people to use the Koran when taking an oath, saying the use of the Bible exclusively represents "an inappropriate state endorsement of religion." The request by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) comes after Guilford County judges said they would not allow use of Korans in their courtrooms.") (June 21, 2005)
DANIELPIPES.org - Weblog: "SIR IBRAHIM HOOPER AND LORD SALAM AL-MARAYATI?" (June 12, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org - Dhimmi Watch (AMERICANS AGAINST HATE): "JEB BUSH SENDS LETTER OF SUPPORT TO CAIR" (June 5, 2005)

ArabNews.com: Washinton: "CAIR OFFERING FREE QUR'AN COPIES TO AMERICANS" by Barbara Ferguson, Arab News (June 4, 2005)

"/littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16089_NYT_Legitimizes_CAIR_(Again)&only" (June 4, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR DISTRIBUTES QURAN BANNED AS ANTI-SEMITIC Version Offered for Free as Goodwill Response to Newsweek Fiasco" by Art Moore (June 2, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "MSM CRTICIZES CAIR, CAIR BRAZENS IT OUT" (May 23, 2005)

DANIEL PIPES.org (FrontPageMagazine.com): "CAIR's HATE CRIMES NONSENSE" by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha (May 18, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "FREE KORANS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" by Susan Jones (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Over the weekend, CAIR held a conference in the Washington area on the causes and remedies of "Islamophobia and anti-Americanism."") (May 17, 2005)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CAIR: HOW CLOSE TO TERRORISM?" by Andrew Whitehead and Lee Kaplan (May 11, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "ACLU, CAIR DECRY ANTI-TERROR EFFORTS" April 20, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR AND TERRORISM" -Commentary by Joseph Farah (April 18, 2005)

FrontPageMag.com: "CAIR's RADICAL NEXUS" by Josh Lefkowitz and Erick Stakelbeck (March 10, 2005)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.US: "WTF, OVER. [WHY IS THE DoD LIST SERVER BEING USED BY CAIR?]" (March 9, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "CAIR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN 9/11 TERROR LAWSUIT" (December 30, 2004)

WorldNetDaily.com: "SCHOOLS TO OBSERVE RAMADAN HOLIDAY?" (December 16, 2004)

48 posted on 01/30/2006 7:53:52 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Yaelle

“Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.” Margaret Chase Smith

Give them hell Bill.


49 posted on 01/30/2006 7:56:25 PM PST by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: LS
So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims?

Only if it's Moos. Because that level of stupidity is impressively and massively funny. And even funnier - they do it every damn year!

50 posted on 01/30/2006 8:00:58 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

Sorry, I don't find women and children being crushed funny, regardless of their religion.


51 posted on 01/31/2006 5:28:24 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
Sorry, I don't find women and children being crushed funny, regardless of their religion.

Once again, they were the hardest hit! Allah's fault! LOL

But don't worry - there's no shortage of Moo idiots. Yet. There will be.

52 posted on 01/31/2006 9:15:39 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden
I would remind you that the Lord God Jehovah CREATED those "Moo idiots" that they might have an opportunity to accept Jesus as savior. How many of those children would, thanks to the WOT and the expansion of democracy in the region, finally have an opportunity to hear a Christian evangelist? And themselves become evangelists? God did not make them for the purpose of being buried in a stampede.

Allah had nothing to do with it. The stampede was the work of the devil, influencing a bunch of demonically-influenced minds. But God has required that we battle that and preach the gospel. I still fail to see how them dying in an act of the devil advances His plan for them.

53 posted on 01/31/2006 9:38:03 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
Odds are these Moo morons would be strapping on a bomb vest before converting to Christianity. Fortunately, they took themselves out via their own stupidity - much more of this is to be encouraged.

I'm hoping the next Crusades finally does the job.

54 posted on 01/31/2006 9:53:36 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

Glad you can see inside other people's souls. Fortunately, God is a little smarter than you.


55 posted on 01/31/2006 10:18:00 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
Just playing the odds, that's all. I figure the types inclined to become part of some insane mob crush for a silly Moo ritual are more likely than most to be fanatics, or to breed fanatics.

Just playing the odds.

56 posted on 01/31/2006 10:32:09 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Dan, when I lived in Elk Grove, I could get KFI on my car and home radio. Is there a station at 650 am now?


57 posted on 01/31/2006 10:35:07 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

Yes. KSTE is the Clear Channel B-station. There's no way during drivetime that I would be able to pick them up -- possibly late at night. When I drive up I-5 I usually lose KFI around Coalinga.


58 posted on 01/31/2006 10:40:27 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Hank Rearden
See, that's the deal. Jesus never "played the odds." He went to a Samaritan woman at the well, a prostitute, who should have had nothing to do with Him, while basically ignoring those who "should have been on His side." He spoke to the tax collectors, but spent little time with the "religious" people who should have received His message.

His commandments are clear: we are NOT to "play the odds" when it comes to viewing other humans as God-created who, as long as they live, can STILL come to an understanding of salvation. That certainly doesn't mean you don't have a deadly military, or that you take precautions, whether walking through "da hood," or through Mecca (I know, it's not allowed). My point is, I don't see a bunch of non-Americans, even those of cultures from whom often spring our enemies, as "better off dead." I see them as the potential SOLUTION to the problem. Imagine if a great one-time Muslim Christian evangelist could speak to his or her people with the same effectiveness that Smith Wigglesworth spoke to the English coal-miners, or that one-time Christian-hater Saul spoke to the Gentiles and the barbarian Greeks.

59 posted on 01/31/2006 10:43:00 AM PST by LS
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To: Hildy

he had the stomach staple last year.


60 posted on 02/02/2006 6:29:07 PM PST by merry10
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