Posted on 01/30/2006 5:57:36 AM PST by ken5050
Good Monday morning, fellow Freeper political junkies. One of the more ridiculous episodes of political theater is about to play itself out on the Senate floor, as the John Kerry-led democrats mount an exercise in political futility which will further expose their total irrelevance..So join us today, or drop in on occasion, for the festivities...
Lord have mercy -- Kennedy was exploding... too funny.
Thanks, I kept checking the online C-Span and they had Avian flu prepardness listed for C-SpanII so I never opened it. I have it on now.
LOL! As long as we win this let them bloviate!
Only San Francisco and L.A. The rest of our state is sane! (okay, there is Santa Cruz too)
and yet there are those, in those cities, who fight on against the sexist, man-hating bigotry of Senator's Boxer and Feinstein.
The little sign behind the driver's head says, "Feminist Lies Make Bad Laws."
Yes, that truck has been up and down Hollywood and Sunset Blvd's. in Hollywood many times.
He runs as a phoney, baloney, good time rock'n'roll, plastic banana conservative. Fools a lot of people.
I'm not watching TV, but I don't suppose Boxer has mentioned the oppression of the 46 million unborn humans (many of them minorities) who were scalded, chopped, and vacuumed to death in their mothers' wombs by an activist Supreme Court of the kind she would love to see again.
Bwaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaa!
I have no doubt that they would do it too. i have never seen such desperation before this crowd got deprived of power in '94.
Exactly. But then again it's long been a tactic of the left to have judges make the law when their own constituents oppose them. It's elitism at its finest/worst.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture On The Nomination of Samuel A. Alito, Jr. of New Jersey, To Be An Associate Justice Of The Supreme Court )
Vote Number: 1 Vote Date: January 30, 2006, 04:40 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Agreed to
Nomination Number: PN490
Nomination Description: Rear Adm. (lh) Mark A. Hugel, in the Navy, to be Rear Admiral
Vote Counts: YEAs 72
NAYs 25
Not Voting 3
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Nay
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Not Voting
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Not Voting
Harkin (D-IA), Not Voting
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Talent (R-MO), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---72
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
NAYs ---25
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 3
Ensign (R-NV)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
Grouped by Home State
Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Yea Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Nay Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Nay Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Yea Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Nay Obama (D-IL), Nay
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Not Voting
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Yea McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Nay Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Nay Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Yea Dayton (D-MN), Nay
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Yea Lott (R-MS), Yea
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea Talent (R-MO), Yea
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Burns (R-MT), Yea
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Not Voting Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Not Voting Reid (D-NV), Nay
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Yea
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Nay Schumer (D-NY), Nay
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Yea Dole (R-NC), Yea
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Pennsylvania: Santorum (R-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Reed (D-RI), Nay
South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Yea Graham (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea Thune (R-SD), Yea
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Yea Frist (R-TN), Yea
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Nay Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Virginia: Allen (R-VA), Yea Warner (R-VA), Yea
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Nay
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Enzi (R-WY), Yea Thomas (R-WY), Yea
They want to be in the Congressional Record before the vote on the nominee. Boxer read off a list of DEM stragglers who want time to debate.
Because they don't have anything better to do.
This Baucus should be voted out of office----he's going on and on and on about things that have been covered before.
Time to stop listening for me.
Yeah, should make the highlight reel on C-SPAN's replay LOL!!
I was wondering the same thing but then I realized the money vote is tomorrow. It's the last time to get their cheap shots in.
We should...that is unacceptable rhetoric on the Senate floor...
We need to get the transcript of her speech..and make SURE of the language first though.
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture On The Nomination of Samuel A. Alito, Jr. of New Jersey, To Be An Associate Justice Of The Supreme Court ) | |||
Vote Number: | 1 | Vote Date: | January 30, 2006, 04:40 PM |
Required For Majority: | 3/5 | Vote Result: | Cloture Motion Agreed to |
Nomination Number: | PN490 | ||
Nomination Description: | Rear Adm. (lh) Mark A. Hugel, in the Navy, to be Rear Admiral |
Vote Counts: | YEAs | 72 |
NAYs | 25 | |
Not Voting | 3 |
Vote Summary | By Senator Name | By Vote Position | By Home State |
Akaka (D-HI), Yea Alexander (R-TN), Yea Allard (R-CO), Yea Allen (R-VA), Yea Baucus (D-MT), Yea Bayh (D-IN), Nay Bennett (R-UT), Yea Biden (D-DE), Nay Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Bond (R-MO), Yea Boxer (D-CA), Nay Brownback (R-KS), Yea Bunning (R-KY), Yea Burns (R-MT), Yea Burr (R-NC), Yea Byrd (D-WV), Yea Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea Chafee (R-RI), Yea Chambliss (R-GA), Yea Clinton (D-NY), Nay Coburn (R-OK), Yea Cochran (R-MS), Yea Coleman (R-MN), Yea Collins (R-ME), Yea Conrad (D-ND), Yea Cornyn (R-TX), Yea Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea Dayton (D-MN), Nay DeMint (R-SC), Yea DeWine (R-OH), Yea Dodd (D-CT), Nay Dole (R-NC), Yea |
Domenici (R-NM), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Yea Durbin (D-IL), Nay Ensign (R-NV), Not Voting Enzi (R-WY), Yea Feingold (D-WI), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Nay Frist (R-TN), Yea Graham (R-SC), Yea Grassley (R-IA), Yea Gregg (R-NH), Yea Hagel (R-NE), Not Voting Harkin (D-IA), Not Voting Hatch (R-UT), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea Isakson (R-GA), Yea Jeffords (I-VT), Nay Johnson (D-SD), Yea Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea Kyl (R-AZ), Yea Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay Leahy (D-VT), Nay Levin (D-MI), Nay Lieberman (D-CT), Yea Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Lott (R-MS), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea Martinez (R-FL), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea |
McConnell (R-KY), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Nay Mikulski (D-MD), Nay Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Murray (D-WA), Nay Nelson (D-FL), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Yea Obama (D-IL), Nay Pryor (D-AR), Yea Reed (D-RI), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea Salazar (D-CO), Yea Santorum (R-PA), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay Schumer (D-NY), Nay Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Yea Smith (R-OR), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea Talent (R-MO), Yea Thomas (R-WY), Yea Thune (R-SD), Yea Vitter (R-LA), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea Warner (R-VA), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay |
Vote Summary | By Senator Name | By Vote Position | By Home State |
YEAs ---72 | ||
Akaka (D-HI) Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bingaman (D-NM) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) |
Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) DeWine (R-OH) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Inouye (D-HI) Isakson (R-GA) Johnson (D-SD) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) |
Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) |
NAYs ---25 | ||
Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Boxer (D-CA) Clinton (D-NY) Dayton (D-MN) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) |
Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) |
Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR) |
Not Voting - 3 | ||
Ensign (R-NV) |
Hagel (R-NE) |
Harkin (D-IA) |
Vote Summary | By Senator Name | By Vote Position | By Home State |
Alabama: | Sessions (R-AL), Yea | Shelby (R-AL), Yea |
Alaska: | Murkowski (R-AK), Yea | Stevens (R-AK), Yea |
Arizona: | Kyl (R-AZ), Yea | McCain (R-AZ), Yea |
Arkansas: | Lincoln (D-AR), Yea | Pryor (D-AR), Yea |
California: | Boxer (D-CA), Nay | Feinstein (D-CA), Nay |
Colorado: | Allard (R-CO), Yea | Salazar (D-CO), Yea |
Connecticut: | Dodd (D-CT), Nay | Lieberman (D-CT), Yea |
Delaware: | Biden (D-DE), Nay | Carper (D-DE), Yea |
Florida: | Martinez (R-FL), Yea | Nelson (D-FL), Yea |
Georgia: | Chambliss (R-GA), Yea | Isakson (R-GA), Yea |
Hawaii: | Akaka (D-HI), Yea | Inouye (D-HI), Yea |
Idaho: | Craig (R-ID), Yea | Crapo (R-ID), Yea |
Illinois: | Durbin (D-IL), Nay | Obama (D-IL), Nay |
Indiana: | Bayh (D-IN), Nay | Lugar (R-IN), Yea |
Iowa: | Grassley (R-IA), Yea | Harkin (D-IA), Not Voting |
Kansas: | Brownback (R-KS), Yea | Roberts (R-KS), Yea |
Kentucky: | Bunning (R-KY), Yea | McConnell (R-KY), Yea |
Louisiana: | Landrieu (D-LA), Yea | Vitter (R-LA), Yea |
Maine: | Collins (R-ME), Yea | Snowe (R-ME), Yea |
Maryland: | Mikulski (D-MD), Nay | Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay |
Massachusetts: | Kennedy (D-MA), Nay | Kerry (D-MA), Nay |
Michigan: | Levin (D-MI), Nay | Stabenow (D-MI), Nay |
Minnesota: | Coleman (R-MN), Yea | Dayton (D-MN), Nay |
Mississippi: | Cochran (R-MS), Yea | Lott (R-MS), Yea |
Missouri: | Bond (R-MO), Yea | Talent (R-MO), Yea |
Montana: | Baucus (D-MT), Yea | Burns (R-MT), Yea |
Nebraska: | Hagel (R-NE), Not Voting | Nelson (D-NE), Yea |
Nevada: | Ensign (R-NV), Not Voting | Reid (D-NV), Nay |
New Hampshire: | Gregg (R-NH), Yea | Sununu (R-NH), Yea |
New Jersey: | Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay | Menendez (D-NJ), Nay |
New Mexico: | Bingaman (D-NM), Yea | Domenici (R-NM), Yea |
New York: | Clinton (D-NY), Nay | Schumer (D-NY), Nay |
North Carolina: | Burr (R-NC), Yea | Dole (R-NC), Yea |
North Dakota: | Conrad (D-ND), Yea | Dorgan (D-ND), Yea |
Ohio: | DeWine (R-OH), Yea | Voinovich (R-OH), Yea |
Oklahoma: | Coburn (R-OK), Yea | Inhofe (R-OK), Yea |
Oregon: | Smith (R-OR), Yea | Wyden (D-OR), Nay |
Pennsylvania: | Santorum (R-PA), Yea | Specter (R-PA), Yea |
Rhode Island: | Chafee (R-RI), Yea | Reed (D-RI), Nay |
South Carolina: | DeMint (R-SC), Yea | Graham (R-SC), Yea |
South Dakota: | Johnson (D-SD), Yea | Thune (R-SD), Yea |
Tennessee: | Alexander (R-TN), Yea | Frist (R-TN), Yea |
Texas: | Cornyn (R-TX), Yea | Hutchison (R-TX), Yea |
Utah: | Bennett (R-UT), Yea | Hatch (R-UT), Yea |
Vermont: | Jeffords (I-VT), Nay | Leahy (D-VT), Nay |
Virginia: | Allen (R-VA), Yea | Warner (R-VA), Yea |
Washington: | Cantwell (D-WA), Yea | Murray (D-WA), Nay |
West Virginia: | Byrd (D-WV), Yea | Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea |
Wisconsin: | Feingold (D-WI), Nay | Kohl (D-WI), Yea |
Wyoming: | Enzi (R-WY), Yea | Thomas (R-WY), Yea |
Ugnmoose (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-30-06 05:55 PM
Original message
Dems cut a deal? Alito for Bush
This whole Alito vote stinks to high heaven. It makes absolutely no sense why the Dems rolled over. The only thing I can think of is that a back room deal was cut. The Dems give em Alito and the Repukes vote for a Bush Impeachment. Before you start screaming - no way, think about it. Hearings are about to start on the NSA Illegal wiretapping. Everyone knows they have "His Majesty" stone cold guilty of violating the FISA Act and Article 4 of the Constitution. Hell he even proudly admits to it. The Repukes will be hard pressed to explain this one away. So they cut a deal with the Dems to get Alito on the Court. They save face with the hard core evangelical rght wingers and get to cut and run in time to save their own necks for the mid-term elections.
Exactly. Let's do get the transcript first.
A couple of hundred posts ago Lautenburg commented that his ancestors had left England.......
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