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Mexican official: U.S. soldiers disguised themselves as Mexican military
Daily Bulletin ^ | 1/27/06 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 01/27/2006 10:54:11 AM PST by NormsRevenge

A Mexican official suggested Thursday that it was American soldiers disguised as Mexicans who were involved in an armed standoff Monday along the Rio Grande with U.S. law enforcement officers.

Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said in a news conference that U.S. soldiers have helped drug traffickers in the past, but offered no specific examples.

"Members of the U.S. Army have helped protect people who were processing and transporting drugs," Derbez said. "And just as that has happened ... it is very probable that something like that could have happened, that in reality they were members of some of their groups disguised as Mexican soldiers with Humvees."

White House officials would not comment on Derbez's claim and referred all questions to the Department of Defense.

Defense spokeswoman Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke said officials from both Mexico and the United States are investigating the incident on the Texas border.

"The U.S. and Mexican government are working together to gain control of the border and will continue to collaborate," Krenke said.

On Wednesday, U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza issued a statement asking the Mexican government to "fully investigate" the border incident, which the Daily Bulletin first reported earlier this week.

Rep. David Dreier, R-Glendora, reiterated on Thursday the need for a Congressional investigation.

"Honestly, we need to get information for everybody's understanding," he said. "There are stories everywhere with few answers. We need to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible."

Dreier and Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-San Diego, jointly called for such an investigation after the Daily Bulletin published a story on Jan. 15 reporting more than 200 Mexican military incursions during the past 10 years, as documented by the Department of Homeland Security.

The newspaper also obtained a 2001 map bearing the seal of the president's Office of National Drug Control Policy and showing the locations of 34 of those incursions.

Derbez said his country will send a diplomatic note to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice demanding that U.S. officials tone down their comments on Mexico's security and immigration problems.

State Department officials late Thursday said they have not received any note from the Mexican government and thus would not comment on Derbez's remarks.

Monday's armed standoff began 50 miles southeast of El Paso, when Texas state police tried to stop three sport utility vehicles on Interstate 10. The vehicles made a quick U-turn and headed south toward the border, a few miles away.

Crossing the border, one SUV got stuck in the Rio Grande, and men in a Humvee with a mounted gun tried in vain to tow it out. Then a group of men in civilian clothes began unloading what appeared to be bundles of marijuana and torched the SUV before fleeing.

Mexican officials insisted Wednesday that the men in military-style uniforms were drug smugglers, not soldiers. In Mexico, kidnappers and drug smugglers regularly wear police gear, which is sold at street stands.

Derbez said there was no proof that the men seen in the incident were Mexicans and that the men photographed by Texas law enforcement could have been Americans.

Three U.S. soldiers have pleaded guilty to running a cocaine smuggling ring from a U.S. base in Colombia, and a fourth is being tried in Texas this week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; disguised; gwot; immigrantlist; mexican; military; official; saraacarter; soldiers; wod
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To: NormsRevenge

I hope someone is doing a search on that VIN number! If it's stolen, that's one thing. If it was sold to the Mexican Gov/army, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


41 posted on 01/27/2006 11:48:00 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: DustyMoment
Mexican official: U.S. soldiers disguised themselves as Mexican military

Shoot them next time and you will have the proof. Simple

42 posted on 01/27/2006 11:53:30 AM PST by WesternPacific
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To: NormsRevenge

The Mexicans think we are as stupid as they are?


43 posted on 01/27/2006 11:54:34 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: NormsRevenge
Psychological defense mechanism known as projection, wherein an individual or group subconsciously ascribes its own motivations and behaviors to another. Widely observed among Democrats.
44 posted on 01/27/2006 11:56:22 AM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Derbez must be smoking some of his own product.


45 posted on 01/27/2006 11:58:07 AM PST by csvset
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To: HiJinx

Don't Bogart that joint, Luis Ernesto !


46 posted on 01/27/2006 11:59:49 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: B Knotts

End the wire transfers of cash. That'll get their attention!


47 posted on 01/27/2006 12:03:13 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Members of the U.S. Army have helped protect people who were processing and transporting drugs," Derbez said. "And just as that has happened ... it is very probable that something like that could have happened, that in reality they were members of some of their groups disguised as Mexican soldiers with Humvees."

I think it's very probable that Derbez is a liar, and on the take from the drug cartels.

48 posted on 01/27/2006 12:05:24 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: travlnmn41

No, it was me -- Major Woody


49 posted on 01/27/2006 12:07:09 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: Mulch

"Sources" are claiming the rhetoric is due to the Mexican elections upcoming in July.


50 posted on 01/27/2006 12:09:50 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: hosepipe

Not just drugs, they're trafficking in humans too, obviously.


51 posted on 01/27/2006 12:12:00 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism.)
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To: Flavius Josephus
Isn't that just like the US Army to steal Mexican uniforms, select only 5 foot tall recruits who speak Spanish, paint their Jeeps with Mexican insignia and trick the good ole boys on the El Paso sheriff's department !
52 posted on 01/27/2006 12:14:27 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Light up another joint Ernesto and say something else completly stupid.


53 posted on 01/27/2006 12:18:55 PM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rep. David Dreier, R-Glendora, reiterated on Thursday the need for a Congressional investigation.

"Honestly, we need to get information for everybody's understanding," he said. "There are stories everywhere with few answers. We need to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible."


More "happy words" from Namby-Pamby David Dreier! Nothing will come of his request for information. He's a Republican Hack and will tell the Sports/Porn addicted U.S. populace whatever they want to hear.

Mexican Soldiers have crossed our Southern border more than 200 times. That is an Act Of War and should be treated as such.

Where the hell is my government!


54 posted on 01/27/2006 12:23:32 PM PST by He'sComingBack! (Compliments to Texas on beating my Trojans. Can you make it to 34?)
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To: Flavius Josephus

A large number of army, air force, DPS, BP, and other uniformed personnel were busted over the last year in the Tucson sector who were actively involved in transporting and selling drugs.

Corruption in our military is far less common than in theirs.


55 posted on 01/27/2006 12:27:57 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Secure the Border ~ Fine the Employer ~ Deport the Illegal ~)
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To: SQUID
An Apache in the air could solve the problem. Kill them and identifying them later. If they are Mexican Soldier apologize to Mexico for "accidental killing them" as we "thought" they were actually American troops that were engaged in drug smuggling. Repeat as needed.

By the way, this would not be a violation of posse comitas as this would be repelling an armed invasion of our borders by a foreign army. Bag and Tag and ship them home.
56 posted on 01/27/2006 12:41:09 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: NormsRevenge
Truth is, this claim would be tossed aside if there wasn't a problem of illegal drug use and distribution within our military.

If any of our military personnel are involved in the trafficking of illegal drugs they need to be rooted out. My personal experience is that the ones involved represent a very small minority, but their involvement casts a very large dark cloud over the majority of military members that are serving honorably.

It was always disheartening when I had to call for a lock-down and search of facilities on a base to see who was caught up in these activities. It was disheartening because I wished there was no need to conduct theses activities, but unfortunately the need was there.

Why is there no criticism in this thread of the two Representatives in Congress asking for an investigation? An investigation would either prove the claim a lie, or root out military members involved in trafficking of illegal drugs. Either result would improve the moral and performance of the vast majority of our military members serving honorably.
57 posted on 01/27/2006 12:48:42 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Leisler
I didn't know Mexico had a immigration problem.

You might be amazed to learn of how protective Mexico is their southern border. Mexico has a double standard on border protection that no one speaks of. While criticizing our efforts along our souther border, they are extremely protective of their own southern border.
58 posted on 01/27/2006 12:55:48 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: spectre
Good afternoon.
"The next time this happens on our side of the border, smoke them with an Apache helicopter and ID the bodies."

Apaches cost quite a bit to operate. How about a few teams with Mr. Barrett's guns? I believe .50 BMG is only a buck or so a round.

Michael Frazier
59 posted on 01/27/2006 1:09:52 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: HiJinx

This is just hilarious. Maybe they expect us to believe their crapola? *SIGH*


60 posted on 01/27/2006 1:12:05 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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