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2,400-foot tunnel 'beats them all'
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 01/27/2006 | Onell R. Soto and Leslie Berestein

Posted on 01/27/2006 7:24:10 AM PST by RS

"U.S. agents had been investigating the possibility of an elaborate drug-smuggling tunnel between Tijuana and San Diego for more than a year, but couldn't find it despite using military equipment so advanced it's classified"

~snip

"“This tunnel beats them all,” said Michael Unzueta, special agent in charge of the San Diego office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, "

~snip

"“People are always going to find a way around us,” he said."

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercontrol; borderfence; bordersecurity; ca; california; dea; drugtrafficking; drugwar; duh; dumbusa; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa; lawenforcement; leo; mexico; mexifornia; narcodemocracy; newworldorder; nm; omygodtheyfoundtom; openborders; otay; sandiego; smuggling; tijuana; tj; tunnel; warondrugs; wodlist
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To: Travis McGee

I saw your ad in this month's "Guns" magazine.


141 posted on 01/27/2006 9:56:56 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Squantos

"A losers argument to answer a question with a question..... I thought you may have had a valid point or two....sorry to bother."

You didn't really expect me to post a resume just because you ( whoever you are ) wanted one did you ?

I suppose I should just consider by your own criteria any point you make as invalid.

Do you have anything usefull to say ?


142 posted on 01/27/2006 9:57:32 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"Yeah it will remain paranoia up until the time a mushroom cloud goes up over New York."

Yep, they are backpacking nukes across the desert ( as opposed to just shipping them in containers )


143 posted on 01/27/2006 10:00:22 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

Just to state you full of it and clearly just a rude POS that I tried to debate an issue politely with. Now go bother someone who likes ya. I wasted too much time with your pro illegal agenda already.


144 posted on 01/27/2006 10:03:34 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

"Just to state you full of it and clearly just a rude POS that I tried to debate an issue politely with. Now go bother someone who likes ya. I wasted too much time with your pro illegal agenda already."

Your daddy who speaks better will be upset when he finds out you have used his account.


145 posted on 01/27/2006 10:07:13 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"Provide water to those wandering in the desert. A bit salty to be sure, but it's still water."

Yep, now they can cross anywhere - you've just added a few hundred miles to the areas that crossings are possible.


146 posted on 01/27/2006 10:19:27 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Travis McGee

Spot on. bttt!


147 posted on 01/27/2006 10:31:20 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Travis McGee

Realized I never replied to this, sorry for the delay -

Which is better for us, from all points of view? To allow unbridled foot traffic of illegal immigrants and easy surface dope smuggling (with no fence), or to shut down the illegal immigration with a fence, and force the cartels to spend millions to tunnel under to move dope?

Duh... we already have a fence preventing "unbridled foot traffic of illegal immigrants and easy surface dope smuggling"

Since it is already doing what you want, why do you need the DMZ ?

(unless of course you are a contractor and loves to spend money on useless stuff )


148 posted on 01/27/2006 10:45:57 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
just why do you assume that terrorists are being allowed to "stream unchecked into your home camp

Not an 'assumption' on my part, it's a documented fact:

Man caught with member of gang with alleged terrorist links

Congressional Record (Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison speech)

No Extra Scrutiny for Middle Eastern Illegals

Literally THOUSANDS of illegals cross the border every day....

Are YOU willing to risk American lives on the wild assumption that Muslims are illegally entering our country only to 'make better lives' and not slit our throats??

I'm not!

149 posted on 01/28/2006 5:19:39 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am *NOT a 'legal entity' nor am I a ~person~ as created by law)
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To: Altair333

but things are NOT working in that direction. Home depot is setting up hiring centers with catholic charities and cities.

etc.


150 posted on 01/28/2006 5:28:51 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: RS

Thanks for keeping the thread going. You are not bright enough to comprehend that the more folks who see it, the more folks are for a strong border defense: including fences.

Each reply means 15 more "reads" by lurkers. Keep it up.


151 posted on 01/28/2006 7:27:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

Thanks.


152 posted on 01/28/2006 7:28:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: MamaTexan; Squantos
Why bother to engage a liar in honest debate? He doesn't believe one word of what he says. He has a hidden agenda, which is keeping the border wide open to the criminal invasion at all costs. He thinks this tunnel will convince the muddle-headed that we don't need a fence, that's why he posted this article. His great fear is an effective border fence, which will stop 99% of illegal immigration across the border, as it has whereever it has been built.


153 posted on 01/28/2006 7:31:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Why bother to engage a liar in honest debate?

Pure-dee-ole Texas bullheadedness?

(LOL!)

Honestly?

The WORST it can do is force me to refine my arguments and allow me to present them in a more thoughtful manner to a more receptive audience at a later date.

The BEST it can do is maybe.... just MAYBE, it will make someone think twice about their own rationalizations and let a tiny ray of reality into their tightly closed minds. :)

154 posted on 01/28/2006 8:12:35 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am *NOT a 'legal entity' nor am I a ~person~ as created by law)
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To: MamaTexan

That's all true. And every reply means 15 more lurker reads.


155 posted on 01/28/2006 8:17:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: RS
[ But it does nothing about the drug smuggling and the "terrorists coming across from Mexico" paranoia. ]

Its NOT paranoia if they really ARE out to git ya..
Suggest a re-think..

156 posted on 01/28/2006 8:35:20 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: MamaTexan

"Are YOU willing to risk American lives on the wild assumption that Muslims are illegally entering our country only to 'make better lives' and not slit our throats??"

I usually don't respond at all to these " Do you still beat your wife" type fo questions, but I'll simply ignore it in your case.

From your own link, IF the statements by Hutchinson are to be taken as factual ( I can't source most of them ), the border patrol agent seems amazed that the people he stopped were speaking Arabic.
Can't be too much of a stream.

Look up thread a bit and you will see a link to a listing of OTMs by country for 2003 - almost everry country in the world is represented.
Does it surprise you that Arabs would be in that group ?
I would be very surprised if they were NOT.



" The dog barking at night is suspicious"
" but Sherlock, the dog did not bark"
" That is what is suspicious about it, my dear Watson"


157 posted on 01/28/2006 8:37:12 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
SO THEN, you Don't think...
A WALL AND prosecuting employers hiring illegals would HELP?..

Prosecute employers and most of the illegals will slip BACK across ther border in a year.. AND then build the wall.. There should have a been a wall 30 years ago..

158 posted on 01/28/2006 8:39:49 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Travis McGee

"Thanks for keeping the thread going. "

So you've run out of responses ?
Why not simply post that same picture a few more times ?


159 posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:37 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Travis McGee
Each reply means 15 more "reads" by lurkers.

bttt

160 posted on 01/28/2006 8:42:50 AM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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