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It May Look Authentic; Here's How to Tell It Isn't
NY Times ^ | January 24, 2006 | NICHOLAS WADE

Posted on 01/23/2006 10:05:37 PM PST by neverdem

Among the many temptations of the digital age, photo-manipulation has proved particularly troublesome for science, and scientific journals are beginning to respond.

Some journal editors are considering adopting a test, in use at The Journal of Cell Biology, that could have caught the concocted images of the human embryonic stem cells made by Dr. Hwang Woo Suk.

At The Journal of Cell Biology, the test has revealed extensive manipulation of photos. Since 2002, when the test was put in place, 25 percent of all accepted manuscripts have had one or more illustrations that were manipulated in ways that violate the journal's guidelines, said Michael Rossner of Rockefeller University, the executive editor. The editor of the journal, Ira Mellman of Yale, said that most cases were resolved when the authors provided originals. "In 1 percent of the cases we find authors have engaged in fraud," he said.

The two editors recognized the likelihood that images were being improperly manipulated when the journal required all illustrations to be submitted in digital form. While reformatting illustrations submitted in the wrong format, Dr. Rossner realized that some authors had yielded to the temptation of Photoshop's image-changing tools to misrepresent the original data.

In some instances, he found, authors would remove bands from a gel, a test for showing what proteins are present in an experiment. Sometimes a row of bands would be duplicated and presented as the controls for a second experiment. Sometimes the background would be cleaned up, with Photoshop's rubber stamp or clone stamp tool, to make it prettier.

Some authors would change the contrast in an image to eliminate traces of a diagnostic stain that showed up in places where there shouldn't be one. Others would take images of cells from different experiments and assemble them as if all were growing...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: crevolist; false; forgery; fraud; imaging; lyingliars; makingitup; photoshop; psudoscience; science; stemcellresearch; waronerror
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To: editor-surveyor
What I find interesting, is that while pointing out the fraud, they still want to call them scientists

Nothing to see here... "scientists police themselves"... move along.... "would have been found in peer review".... eventually....

Move along.... quickly... hurry up....
41 posted on 01/24/2006 8:48:35 AM PST by darbymcgill
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To: tallhappy
The first time I saw someone "cleaning up" their gel about ten years ago now I was shocked.

Yeah, I asked my thesis advisor about cleaning up a spotty western blot. He said the spots gave it character.
42 posted on 01/24/2006 9:29:29 AM PST by aruanan
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To: tallhappy
In talking with friends the actual thing nowadays is that one can't believe anything in any journal necessarily.

And creationists are criticized for expressing skepticism about the latest scientific pronouncements? Yesterday's science it today's *creationist lies*; thinking of the *most mutations are harmful* issue. So scientists are willing to engage in fraud; imagine that.

43 posted on 01/24/2006 10:06:50 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem

bumpmark


44 posted on 01/24/2006 10:16:13 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: aruanan
He said the spots gave it character.

Absolutely.

45 posted on 01/24/2006 10:25:12 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: R. Scott
Actually, no.

Some photographs have always lied. It is just easier now. Remember fairy photography from the early days?

In any case, all photography excludes information. That is not a lie, but it does create a certain kind of distortion.
46 posted on 01/24/2006 10:29:53 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: fish hawk

At least it doesn't have LEECH's!!


47 posted on 01/24/2006 11:45:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: neverdem

It May Look Authentic; Here's How to Tell It Isn't

Hey!!

I thought this was gonna be a Pamela Anderson thread!!!

48 posted on 01/24/2006 11:52:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: pollyannaish
That is not a lie, but it does create a certain kind of distortion.

Not exactly a lie, but an untruth?
Double exposure, real “cut and paste” (using an X-ato blade and paste) and other means have been used since photography was invented – but as you posted, “It is just easier now.” It was so difficult to do that it needed a real expert to present a useable picture, and “photographs don’t lie” was an accepted phrase. I haven’t heard it used since PhotoShop.
49 posted on 01/24/2006 11:53:13 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Bump for later. I have looked at the dino-bird fossil images close up, will post them here with what notes on what I see.

This cleansing the bands up with photo manipulation is outrageous and should throw the whole science into turmoil.

Wolf
50 posted on 01/24/2006 2:17:34 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

I agree, and this revelation shoud be the end for Ichenoumon posting his spam here.


51 posted on 01/24/2006 2:37:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor
My guess is that there may be more than 1 percent of the data manipulation in some form, and that this sort of thing has bled into several areas of scientific theoretical research. I would guess it is more concentrated in some fields than others. I wont mention them but you can figure it out.

Even one percent though (of data manipulation) is enough, when the one percent is placed for maximum effect.

Wolf
52 posted on 01/24/2006 3:27:10 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: neverdem

Note that none of the "Creationist Scientists" nor "ID Scientists" caught this. It was caught by peer review and efforts of other scientists.


53 posted on 01/24/2006 3:36:13 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; neverdem
Note that none of the "Creationist Scientists" nor "ID Scientists" caught this

First, that is a blatant lie. They have been complaining about the credibility of evolution promotors work for years; and second, none of your media shills would bother to print it in any visible location.

54 posted on 01/24/2006 4:31:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: R. Scott
Double exposure, real “cut and paste” (using an X-ato blade and paste) and other means have been used since photography was invented – but as you posted, “It is just easier now.”

Although there are devices that can flash arbitrary images onto photographic negatives with resolution matching the emulsion grain, such equipment is rare (and is probably designed for use with special-purpose film as opposed to normal camera negative film). So even with today's technology I'd think it difficult to fake a camera master. Maybe someone has equipment to fake a roll of Super8 Kodachrome, but I'd tend to think that an unedited roll of film likely shows what it claims...

...to the extent that any photographic rendering can. Even if a photo or movie is unaltered, there's no guarantee that it actually shows what is claimed. A photo of the President with someone may in fact be a photo of an impersonator with that person. Photos often have limitted authenticating value, even when provably unaltered, because reality may not be what it visually seems to be.

55 posted on 01/24/2006 5:38:10 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat

56 posted on 01/24/2006 5:46:28 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: supercat

I am leery of any photographic evidence that doesn’t include the negative, and with the move to digital cameras, negatives are rapidly becoming relics. Even professional photographers are starting the switch.
I am reminded of the often shown film of Hitler dancing a jig at the news of the fall of France (?). It turned out it was just him taking a step and having that clip repeated several times.


57 posted on 01/25/2006 2:21:29 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: r9etb

"There have certainly been frauds on the evolution side of the debate, but it's very far from the rule"

Excuse me, the evolutionists marxists are guilty of more fraud than Clinton..


58 posted on 01/25/2006 10:59:09 AM PST by caffe
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To: neverdem

The best way to authenticate a digital image would be to calculate a checksum using a crc32 or similar algorithm on the file right from the memory card. Store this in a secure place. The crc could be recalculated at any future time to match the original.

Any digital information could be secured from undetected change this way. It's done all the time -- every time you use a computer for anything.


59 posted on 01/25/2006 11:06:08 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: caffe
Excuse me, the evolutionists marxists are guilty of more fraud than Clinton.

We're talking about scientists who study evolution, not "evolutionists marxists" in general. While some who accept evolution may be marxists, many are not.

But since you've gone ahead and made the loaded claim, perhaps you could provide an example or two.
60 posted on 01/26/2006 9:43:42 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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