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Healthy People 2010
CDC, USDA, NIH, NCHS, Various ^

Posted on 01/23/2006 8:16:52 AM PST by Calpernia

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To: Jhohanna
The generic drug manufacturers are a lot at fault. The major drug companies do all the R&D; then the generic companies come along and copy the formula. It's no wonder the major manufacturers have to charge high prices -- they get undercut by the generics. And NO, generic formulations are NOT the same, regardless of everything the insurance companies & pharmacies try to tell you. A generic is "approved" if its potency is within 20% of the brand name. That means, for example, for a medication of which you are to take 100 mg, you could get a 80 mg dose on one refill and a 120 mg refill on the next ... a 50% increase between refills!!! Even if doses were the same, milligram for milligram, things such as the pressure used to create a tablet alter the metabolism of the drug. (Bytheway, I'm yelling at the situation, not you.)
61 posted on 01/23/2006 2:36:14 PM PST by Pirate21
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To: Calpernia

I am in a Community Health class at a University that is really pushing this Healthy People 2010 as a major focus of the class. Thanks for the heads up on this topic. It felt perculiar the first few class lectures, but I will really pay attention from now on.


62 posted on 01/23/2006 2:47:45 PM PST by myprecious
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To: SheLion

I know, and that's why I do everything I can to help my local seniors. With our landlord raising rent 3x in one year, he can't buy his medications anymore. So I help him with some extra money, he's helping me with some financial stuff... and well, I cook often for him. :) He might be moving (rent-free) to Hawaii though, and that will be good. Believe it or not, he's an elderly (88) gay, REPUBLICAN! :D He's so sweet. But it has definitely given me an incentive to save and plan.


63 posted on 01/23/2006 3:14:54 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Pirate21

Oh I know dear Pirate. They put me on 'generic' Allegra that just hit the market... I've taken 2 doses, and I'm sneezing my head off by 10pm. It's supposed to last all day, but I can so tell it's not. Funny enough, I experienced the same thing with Advil vs. generic Ibuprofen. Wassup with the FDA these days .... oh yeah.... government agency! :P


64 posted on 01/23/2006 3:16:18 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Jhohanna

I know, and that's why I do everything I can to help my local seniors. With our landlord raising rent 3x in one year, he can't buy his medications anymore. So I help him with some extra money, he's helping me with some financial stuff... and well, I cook often for him. :) He might be moving (rent-free) to Hawaii though, and that will be good. Believe it or not, he's an elderly (88) gay, REPUBLICAN! :D He's so sweet. But it has definitely given me an incentive to save and plan.

God bless you for helping this poor soul out!  I know he must really appreciate it. 

It would be wonderful if he could move to Hawaii.  Rent Free?  Excellent!

It just takes a case like his to turn us around to a different mind set about saving money. 


65 posted on 01/23/2006 4:02:04 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
It just takes a case like his to turn us around to a different mind set about saving money.

He's changed my mind-set on an awful lot of things. I really do love him. It's hard for me to make it in this Godforsaken bastion... let alone him. *smile* Not to mention, I love making people happy. :)
66 posted on 01/23/2006 5:19:41 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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This thread deserves a bump. ;)


67 posted on 01/23/2006 5:50:22 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( We're only trying to help people make right decisions-with the full force of government, of course.)
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To: myprecious

>>>>I am in a Community Health class at a University that is really pushing this Healthy People 2010 as a major focus of the class.

Hi Precious!

Now this is interesting. Universities and colleges apply for these grants too.

I wonder how much data the universities are relying back?


68 posted on 01/23/2006 5:53:51 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SheLion; Jhohanna

I've found several insurance companies that have foundations that donate to the NGOs.

I guess that buys them lobbying in return.


69 posted on 01/23/2006 6:00:27 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
'Stakeholders'?

A keyword used by practitioners of the "Delphi Method" of "building consensus" (another keyword).

An indidious method of presenting preconceived notions to a "diverse" group of people, who then "buy into" the concept and saddle the rest of us with something we don't want or need.

I know it's boring, but......

The Delphi Method

70 posted on 01/23/2006 6:16:05 PM PST by elkfersupper
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>>>The Delphi Method makes use of a panel of experts, selected based on the areas of expertise required. The notion is that well-informed individuals, calling on their insights and experience, are better equipped to predict the future than theoretical approaches or extrapolation of trends. Their responses to a series of questionnaires are anonymous, and they are provided with a summary of opinions before answering the next questionnaire. It is believed that the group will converge toward the "best" response through this consensus process.

This is correct. They just implemented the panel of experts:

"A private group has been formed to oversee the National Animal Identification System. The United States Animal Identification Organization (USAIO) held their first meeting via teleconference this week, where the board's first three members were elected. "

I know they are selling a concept. But I am fishing for something else. And the NAIS is the one I have the most information on, so I keep referencing it.

Who now owns the livestock?


71 posted on 01/23/2006 6:43:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Who now owns the livestock?

The fact that they are employing this subversion unfortunately means that your position means nothing......whatever it is that they want is already a done deal.

Whatever they are doing now, and whatever they do soon, is known as "lip service"

Soon, they will publish a "report" which indicates that the "group" agrees with them, and whatever they want should be implemented.

Sorry to be so cynical, but I've seen it happen over and over, on a wide range of proposals.

I have yet to find a way to stop it, once it gets started. I wish I could be of more help, but at least you know now what they're up to.

72 posted on 01/23/2006 7:09:48 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

That is also what my thoughts were.

Now, if you don't mind me picking your thoughts, how does this concept transfer over to the other grants? Like the school lunches?

Am I asking who owns the children?


73 posted on 01/23/2006 7:12:23 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
It doesn't matter if it is school lunches, smoking bans, seatbelts, urban boundaries, or septic tank regulations.

The conclusion has been reached and they are engaged in the process of demonstrating to some sort of governing body that their preconceived idea is the best way to deal with some "crisis".

However they have concluded is the best way to make that connection will become apparent in the "report" - which has already been written, BTW.

74 posted on 01/23/2006 7:23:25 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Calpernia
21. Oral Health

Can only guess what that plan consisted of.

75 posted on 01/23/2006 7:27:46 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Calpernia
One more thought. I almost made some headway once by badgering the crap out of an inexperienced "facilitator".

You may want to try that.

76 posted on 01/23/2006 7:31:02 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Calpernia

bttt


77 posted on 01/23/2006 7:34:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: elkfersupper

I understand the concept. But now I'm down to wanting to know what the bottom line means.

Our 'former' governor just signed a conga line full of new amendments that encompass receipt of most of these grant monies.

These grant monies are from the NGOs and they are being awfully quiet about all of this.

What does this mean? Is our state now part of the UN?

From the grant applications I'm reading, the Statutes and Regulations really sounds like the UN or the 'they' own us.


78 posted on 01/23/2006 7:35:22 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I found this in my old files

Goals to Lower U.S. Smoking Not Being Met:  Report 

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011213/hl/smoking_2.html

(Has since been removed).

Thursday December 13 5:47 PM ET

By Emma Hitt, PhD

ATLANTA (Reuters Health) - The percentage of US adults who smoke ranges from about 13% in Utah to about 30% in Kentucky, and only three states have meet federal goals for reducing the number of residents who smoke, according to researchers at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites) (CDC).

Two reports in the December 14th issue of the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report describe state-based statistics for adult smokers and, for the first time, smoking patterns in major metropolitan areas.

In their ``Healthy People 2010'' guidelines, federal officials have set the goal of reducing cigarette smoking among adults to 12% by the year 2010.

The CDC points out that the average number of people who smoked in 2000 was similar to that reported for the preceding 5 years; however, the number of smokers varied from state to state.

For the year 2000, the goal was to reduce cigarette smoking among adults to 15% in every state, but only three states, Puerto Rico, Utah and California, were able to meet that goal.

The 12 states with the highest number of smokers were Kentucky, Nevada, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, New Hampshire, Alabama, Arkansas and Alaska, the researchers report.

The CDC also investigated the percentages of smokers in 99 metropolitan areas across the US. Similarly to the state-based figures, they ranged from 13% to 31%. Toledo, Ohio had the highest percentage of adult smokers and Orange County (Los Angeles), California had the lowest, they found.

According to the CDC, the findings indicate support for smoking bans, with ``nearly universal support for bans in schools and day care centers and strong support for bans in indoor work areas and restaurants.''

Just over 60% of adults reported a smoke-free office in Mississippi compared to nearly 84% of adults in Montana, the CDC notes.

``The low prevalence of smokers in California, Utah and Puerto Rico may be a result of stronger social and cultural norms against tobacco use compared with other parts of the country,'' the CDC's Dr. Terry Pechacek said during a telephone press conference.

``We have seen variances with states, but they have been stable from year to year, suggesting that there are broad cultural and social differences,'' he told Reuters Health. Utah, for example, has religious and social traditions that may influence smoking, he explained.

According to Pechacek, some states have stronger anti-smoking policies than others. ``We are encouraging all states to look at their trends and smoking within their own state, and where the rates of smoking rates are high. We see that as an opportunity to apply the strategies that we know have worked for other states, such as California.''

79 posted on 01/24/2006 6:33:29 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

>>>>but only three states, Puerto Rico, Utah and California, were able to meet that goal.

Puerto Rico is a State???


80 posted on 01/24/2006 6:50:33 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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