Posted on 01/21/2006 12:20:45 PM PST by FairOpinion
A grassroots effort has been launched here in California to recall Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger's election to governor is the result of another recall. In 2003, Californians recalled Governor Grey Davis.
We have local reaction to this effort to oust Schwarzenegger from office.
The group calls itself Save California Now and their website is recall2006.com.
They say they have 10,000 volunteers signed up, all with the same goal in mind: recall Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger before this year's November election. But locals aren't so sure a recall is feasible.
(Excerpt) Read more at kesq.com ...
If CA moonbats think the Gov. Terminator is a "Right-Wing Barbarian", then I hate to see what they consider to be a mainstream Governor. The Terminator may not be my cup of tea, but I support him just to keep Nancy Pelosi types out of power.
10/07/2005
Californian launches Schwarzenegger recall effort (Berkeley Doctor)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498839/posts
Highlights the Achilles heal of the strategic maxim: An enemy of my enemy is my friend
I don't know about you, but I don't want Arnold to sit as Governor for another five years. If the RP isn't going to challenge the guy in the primaries, I do support the public doing it on their own.
When Arnold first ran, it was my opinion that come hell or high water, he or a worse leftist would win. I know other disagreed on this, and I don't really want to fight that battle again in the here and now.
I do think the public might be primed to understand why installing a popular unknow is a bad idea. Hopefully they got that out of their system and another bold unknown would be seen as just that.
In that environment, a well known person with solid fiscal and social polices such as a Tom McClintoc might be acceptable to the public.
I don't see how another recall could hurt us worse than five more years of Arnold or four more years of his challenger this fall.
Perhaps you see the recall process as flawed and never wanted to see it in the first place. At this point I'm not convinced a recall of Schwarzenegger would be worse than this alternative.
CA nuts will recall him in June and then re-elect him in November.
Agreed.
If the RP isn't going to challenge the guy in the primaries, I do support the public doing it on their own.
From the reaction of the CA GOP (the Sundheim quotes I showed you), it sounds like they will come out in force against anyone that opposes the 'leaders' desires. To me, that means that they need to be replaced before an organized movement could be successful. Dufus as much as said--"do not oppose us or we will withhold any money from your campaign". Until these 'leaders' stop ingnoring the signs and cries of discontent in speaking for all Republicans, I'm not very optimistic.
I know other disagreed on this, and I don't really want to fight that battle again in the here and now.
Fortunately, you and I agreed to disagree a long time ago on this. It saved FR a lot of bandwidth! LOL.
I do think the public might be primed to understand why installing a popular unknow is a bad idea. Hopefully they got that out of their system and another bold unknown would be seen as just that.
I don't know about that. Even the CRA guy was trying to recruit Mel Gibson! He's a great actor and movie maker, but its time to quit looking to Hollywood casting for candidates. I think we need a major WONK movement! The thought that only celebrities can win is ridiculous (I offer as proof Deukmejian, Wilson, Davis).
In that environment, a well known person with solid fiscal and social polices such as a Tom McClintoc might be acceptable to the public.
He was acceptable before--his favorables were as high as Arnold and his unfavorables were lower. Had it been a two man race (D vs R), polls clearly showed him winning against Bustamante. I don't think Westly or Angelides are very popular within their party either, so there certainly is an opportunity. BUT... without formal Party support, he'd probably be committing political suicide. The Lincoln Club and New Majority billionaires would rise to oppose him.
I don't see how another recall could hurt us worse than five more years of Arnold or four more years of his challenger this fall.
Why have a recall? We have an election in November. Getting a candidate and neutralizing the destructive CA GOP leaders is the problem.
Perhaps you see the recall process as flawed and never wanted to see it in the first place.
While I could see the writing on the wall with Schwarzenegger from month 1 of the campaign, it was only after the election that I truly saw the recall in its true light. I'm not sure if I would have changed my vote.
Maybe they can look to Giuliani's experience as inspiration for a script change. Some kind of illness requiring AS to pull out of the race gracefully.... Okay, I know... but one can hope, right? LOL.
This is aslo my speculation ...
I almost hope that Arnie loses. People here in California have not suffered enough. Put a liberal extremist in office and let California follow the course set by Dufus and the liberals in the state house and senate...
Regardless of political philosophy and tenacity, McClintock lacks the charisma to be successful in a traditional gubernatorial campaign.
His choice as Lt. Governor is an excellent personal decision if the governor he serves with is either a conservative Republican or a liberal Democrat. Lt. Governor's have an abundance of time to influence good policy or highlight bad policy.
McClintock's value to California and his time will be wasted if a liberal Republican is reelected governor. That's simply too much talent to sit around and wait for Wilsonegger to quit or leave the state long enough to successfully undermine him, even skillfully.
I half expected it to be disgruntled Republicans... don't these idiots know the recall term ends this year?
No, that's what moderates and their supporters bring to any argument at FR and in general , to the national political scene.
You see them getting all the face time on the networks, we all know who they are and we all know at FR who will support them , all the time castigating conservatives here for not getting with the program, or should I say the programming.
a choice between bustamante and arnie is much the same as one between mccain and hitlary.
Notice that when the New Majority spams the California Topic with a local matter, they also spam several other national topics hoping to solicit vocal empathy for their cause from other far flung progressives. They are well aware that California's conservatives have reached the end of their patience with the damage that their expedient, minority movement has wrought upon California utilizing the unique circumstances of a little used, direct democracy vehicle.
"Let them sell El Capitan or Death Valley or something."
Those are owned by the Feds.
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Amerigos's definition of "far flung progressives": those who do NOT want leftist Democrats elected and the leftist agenda promoted.
Amerigo's definition of "true conservatives": those who are working tirelessly to attack Republicans, promote the Dem agenda, agitate for votes AGAINST conservative propositions, and are helping to get leftist Democrats get elected.
Just clarifying it for those who may actually take your comments seriously.
IMO, nothing taking place to stop it, the RP in California is in for a train wreck this November. Despite the worning signs being up, Schwarzenegger and his RP stoakers are headed full steam into it. What they don't seem to get, I'm thinking many RP voters already have.
Well, if Wilsonegger is re-elected, one could hope that McClintock had become enough of a thorn in his side by the end of his term, for folks to see him as reasoned enough to take Schwarzenegger's place.
The problem now, is that he may likely inherit $220 billion plus of bond debt. Lordy...
One totally unsupported wild theory is the campaign is going to move strongly to pull in the hispanic vote. His new campaign manager, Matthew Dowd, seems well situated for that. Unfortunately, I fear it would be one of those arrogant, ignore-what-people-want campaigns that try to sell what no one is buying. His background with the its-not-an-amnesty amnesty plan drives that suspicion.
Personally, I'm hoping for a miracle in the next few weeks leading up to the convention. I'm not sure what else can save us.
It's hard to believe even you got totally sucked up their filthy exhaust pipe!!! HA HA HA!!!
What a blunder! You really have made and utter embarrassment out of yourself with this one. Phhhhhht!!!
See? The one ya din't ping is the one that pricked yer little balloon, girlie girl. Tee Hee...
If this bogus thread isn't dead, it sure should be!!! It is not worthy of further consideration by considerate conservatives IMO!!!
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