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Why we [should] care about Darwin wars
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 1/19/'06 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 01/19/2006 2:12:48 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator

We can expect more battles about Darwin before school boards across the country. But who cares? Impatient by now with the legal and religious debate around intelligent design, many of us may wonder just that. In fact we all need to care -- Darwinian theory has practical ramifications beyond the narrow question of what mechanism drives evolution.

Darwinists say the evolutionary mechanism must be purely material. ID theorists find evidence in nature of an intelligent purpose shaping life's history. Which view we convey to our children may affect their adult lives.

The scientific impact: Consider our country's role as the leading exporter of scientific ideas. Modern science from its start has been fueled by religious wonder. In his new book, "The Victory of Reason: How Christianity Led to Freedom, Capitalism, and Western Success," sociologist Rodney Stark points out that real science arose only once. That was in Europe at the hands of devoutly Christian scholars: "medieval scholastics, sustained by that uniquely Christian 12th-century invention, the university."

Unlike the ancient Greeks who believed the universe had no beginning and thus no designer, Christians and Jews read the opening chapters of Genesis as an affirmation that nature is God's handiwork. To understand Him, it helps to understand His creation. Writes Stark, "Newton, Kepler and Galileo regarded the creation itself as a book that was to be read and comprehended."

In erasing God's role from the history of biological existence, Darwinism erases a primary motivation to pursue scientific discovery.

The economic impact: In formulating his theory of natural selection, Darwin said he drew inspiration from the work of Thomas Malthus, the 18th-century political economist. Malthus portrayed life as a "struggle for existence," pitting animal against animal. Darwin added that organisms maximized their chances of survival if they possessed favorable variations (later explained as genetic mutations).

In economics, Malthus's view leads to the dismal belief that people are merely consumers, competing with one another for scarce resources. Similarly, Darwin's theory teaches us to think of life as a fierce struggle against others. It thus subtly undercuts the healthy belief that seeking wealth means providing a service to people rather than a way of robbing them. As my friend Rabbi Daniel Lapin points out, humans do best in careers they consider morally commendable. If we want our children to enjoy affluence as we do, it matters what we teach them about the nobility of creating wealth.

The moral impact: In "The Descent of Man" (1871), Darwin spells out the moral implications of his theory, notably that unguided evolution produced the moral laws as much as it did the plants and animals. Such laws could have turned out differently, as the animals could have turned out differently had chance variations led life's history down a different path.

So there is nothing absolute about our ideas of right and wrong. Wrote Darwin, "We may, therefore, reject the belief, lately insisted on by some writers, that the abhorrence of incest is due to our possessing a special God-implanted conscience." If ethics has no such secure foundation, there can be nothing sacred about doing the right thing.

No, I am not saying that Darwinism necessarily leads to scientific, economic and moral breakdown.

On the other hand, one can hardly deny the sad coarsening of our culture. Whatever its merits as science, Darwinism as a philosophy is far from uplifting or ennobling. Today when young Americans could use a little uplift and an appreciation for what's noble, letting them know about intelligent design, an alternative scientific theory with none of Darwin's drawbacks, couldn't hurt and might help.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; darwin; education; evolution; id; idiocy; idisfraud; ignoranceisstrength; science
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And now the piling on by the atheists, libertarians, Randians, age-of-reason addicts, worshippers of progress, economical absolutists, and various other misfits will begin. No ping necessary!
1 posted on 01/19/2006 2:12:51 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

If you're going to post stupid, provocative material, of course people are going to respond.


2 posted on 01/19/2006 2:16:17 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Darwinism as a philosophy
It's not a philosophy. It's a theory that explains descent through natural selection. Those who see it as a philosophy (for whatever reason, pro or con) are nitwits.
3 posted on 01/19/2006 2:17:48 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Zionist Conspirator

What concerns me is the teachers who use darwin as an excuse to preach the ideals of athiesm in the classroom.


4 posted on 01/19/2006 2:19:01 PM PST by x5452
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Right Wing Professor
atheists, libertarians, Randians, age-of-reason addicts, worshippers of progress, economical absolutists, and various other misfits

If you're going to post stupid, provocative material, of course people are going to respond.

Not only posting stupid, provocative material, but immediately following up with stupid, provocative name-calling.

5 posted on 01/19/2006 2:20:04 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

A couldn't care less.


6 posted on 01/19/2006 2:20:43 PM PST by Skooz (Property taxes are immoral)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Sorry, I still can't force myself to care.

I'll try again later.


7 posted on 01/19/2006 2:21:36 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
In economics, Malthus's view leads to the dismal belief that people are merely consumers, competing with one another for scarce resources. Similarly, Darwin's theory teaches us to think of life as a fierce struggle against others. It thus subtly undercuts the healthy belief that seeking wealth means providing a service to people rather than a way of robbing them. Speaking as someone who knows more about economics than science, I have to agree. Darwinism holds as barren a future as the radical homosexual agenda, or the big government control freak agenda, or the Islamofascist agenda.

All you pro Darwin conservatives may not want to admit it, but you're playing into the hands of people like this with your beliefs.

8 posted on 01/19/2006 2:22:21 PM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
First of all, Klinghoffer is clearly ignorant about modern evolutionary theory, which does not encourage us to think of life as a fierce struggle against others. In fact, it teaches us that cooperation is frequently a better way to succeed than competition; but that we should cooperate carefully.

Second of all, this is a particularly stupid sentence Today when young Americans could use a little uplift and an appreciation for what's noble, letting them know about intelligent design, an alternative scientific theory with none of Darwin's drawbacks, couldn't hurt and might help.

So we should teach them something we know to be unscientific, in order to improve their moral stance. Then why stop with evolution? Why not teach them, contrary to relativity, that there is a fixed an immutable frame of reference? Why not teach them contrary to the second law of thermodynamics, that order does arise spontaneously from disorder in a closed system?

9 posted on 01/19/2006 2:22:37 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
Not only posting stupid, provocative material, but immediately following up with stupid, provocative name-calling.

Don't be too hard on the Professor. All he's interested in is tax cuts, and he's afraid with people like me we'll wind up with animal sacrifices instead!

10 posted on 01/19/2006 2:23:39 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: ovrtaxt
Speaking as someone who knows more about economics than science, I have to agree

I hope you know much more about economics than science.

11 posted on 01/19/2006 2:24:22 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: x5452

The "ideals of atheism?" What're those? Self-reliance? A skeptical view towards astonishing claims? A refusal to believe Just-So Stories? Hospitality? Generosity? Doing right not for a reward, but simply because it's right?Inquiring minds want to know.


12 posted on 01/19/2006 2:24:35 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
he's afraid with people like me we'll wind up with animal sacrifices instead!

Yeah, how come you biblical types gave that up?

13 posted on 01/19/2006 2:25:49 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor; samtheman
That's right, boys, nice and smirky! Oh, and don't forget to mention "inbred morons" and how "college has ruined many a good truck driver." I also suggest a crack at the people of Kansas.

Then to finish up tell us all once again what happy, fulfilling lives you lead. We all like to hear about that.

What's this? It's been fifteen minutes and we don't have five hundred replies to this thread yet!

14 posted on 01/19/2006 2:26:20 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I hope you much more about history than science.


15 posted on 01/19/2006 2:27:20 PM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: Junior

Archive.


16 posted on 01/19/2006 2:28:46 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Yeah, how come you biblical types gave that up?

Read Hebrews. It's quite informative.

I have to go make some money now, but I'll check back later. :)

17 posted on 01/19/2006 2:29:28 PM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The whole purpose of Darwinism, which, I assume, is synonymous with the term evolution, is to remove man from any relationship to God, especially accountability.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 2:29:35 PM PST by RoadTest (- - Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6b)
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To: Right Wing Professor

"Yeah, how come you biblical types gave that up?"

Well, it certainly wasn't for a stale batch of primordial soup.


19 posted on 01/19/2006 2:31:11 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Right Wing Professor
Don't be too hard on the Professor. All he's interested in is tax cuts, and he's afraid with people like me we'll wind up with animal sacrifices instead!

Actually, I meant to agree with the Professor. I was referring to your calling atheists, libertarians, fans of Ayn Rand, and principled free-marketers "misfits." I could care less about the ID debate, but am VERY interested in tax cuts. Nothing "misfit" about reason and principle.

20 posted on 01/19/2006 2:31:55 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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