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Lab fireball 'may be black hole'
BBC news ^ | BBC

Posted on 01/19/2006 1:53:38 PM PST by djf

A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said.

It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds.

Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole.

His work has been published on the pre-print website arxiv.org and is reported in New Scientist magazine.

When the gold nuclei smash into each other they are broken down into particles called quarks and gluons.

These form a ball of plasma about 300 times hotter than the surface of the Sun. This fireball, which lasts just 10 million, billion, billionths of a second, can be detected because it absorbs jets of particles produced by the beam collisions.

But Nastase, of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, says there is something unusual about it.

Ten times as many jets were being absorbed by the fireball as were predicted by calculations.

The Brown researcher thinks the particles are disappearing into the fireball's core and reappearing as thermal radiation, just as matter is thought to fall into a black hole and come out as "Hawking" radiation.

However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat. At these energies and distances, gravity is not the dominant force in a black hole.

The RHIC is sited at the Brookhaven National Laboratory.


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To: djf

21 posted on 01/19/2006 1:59:02 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: D.P.Roberts

I think you're onto something...


22 posted on 01/19/2006 1:59:42 PM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: farlander
Now how cool would it be to have a Meson cannon that shoots small singularities at targets ? :)

Where can I buy one?

23 posted on 01/19/2006 1:59:53 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: djf
Some day an anti-Higgs Bosun will pop up and punch them in the nose.
24 posted on 01/19/2006 1:59:53 PM PST by steve86 (PRO-LIFE AND ANTI-GREED)
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To: Netheron
The real reason it is safe is that the evaporation effect from Hawking radiation is so fast that it dissolves before it becomes a threat.

Let's just hope that Hawking didn't forget to carry the two, or else we have itty-bitty black hole down in the earth's center now. Which would produce the mother of all real-estate bubble pops.

25 posted on 01/19/2006 2:00:07 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Eeek! A fiery thing made of pixels!


26 posted on 01/19/2006 2:00:17 PM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: warpcorebreach

What, you mean accidentally open a dimensional portal to Hell? No thanks.


27 posted on 01/19/2006 2:00:24 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: djf

>>>However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat. At these energies and distances, gravity is not the dominant force in a black hole.

Adding to the usefulness of an elusive theory of quantum gravity. If we could understand gravity at the quantum scale, we should be able to calculate at what scale a black hole becomes dangerous, n'est pas?


28 posted on 01/19/2006 2:00:44 PM PST by GeraldP (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: BearWash

LOL, smack them silly, eh?


29 posted on 01/19/2006 2:01:17 PM PST by djf
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To: jbwbubba

Not Bruce Willis, but Chuck Norris could!


30 posted on 01/19/2006 2:01:21 PM PST by oldleft
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To: GeraldP

Answer: A black hole becomes dangerous when you can fit into it.


31 posted on 01/19/2006 2:01:30 PM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: djf
"When the gold nuclei smash into each other they are broken down into particles called quarks and gluons."

An accurate description of another research project funded by taxpayers. They're running a bit low on gold - can Ft Knox spare a bullion or two?

32 posted on 01/19/2006 2:03:03 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: azhenfud

Are you referring to Quark Gluon Plasma, by any chance?


33 posted on 01/19/2006 2:04:36 PM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: GeraldP
Question:

If we could ever really control when, where, and the size of black holes would it open up things like interstellar travel and teleportation? Or are the gravitational forces exerted by bending space too great to be useful?
34 posted on 01/19/2006 2:04:45 PM PST by oldleft
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To: djf

How does a black hole go away? Where does it go?


35 posted on 01/19/2006 2:05:54 PM PST by phatoldphart (pessimist - an optimist with experience)
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To: djf

We're all gonna die!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

36 posted on 01/19/2006 2:05:55 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Liberals oppose individual slavery compared to colletive slavery because they hate competition!)
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To: djf
I refuse to believe anyone can measure time in those increments..
10 million, billion, billionths of a second... puleeese..
37 posted on 01/19/2006 2:06:51 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: jbwbubba; oldleft
Lt. Commander Data could save us. All we need is some antimatter!


38 posted on 01/19/2006 2:07:03 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: djf
Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
39 posted on 01/19/2006 2:07:19 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Termite_Commander
Now if they were colliding lead particles to create gold, that would be OK...
40 posted on 01/19/2006 2:07:20 PM PST by mikrofon (Al Chemy)
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