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SUPREME COURT UPHOLDS OREGON'S SUICIDE LAW
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Posted on 01/17/2006 7:07:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

BREAKING ON THE AP WIRE:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has upheld Oregon's one-of-a-kind physician-assisted suicide law, rejecting a Bush administration attempt to punish doctors who help terminally ill patients die.


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To: al_again

You are responding to someone else. That is not my quote.


481 posted on 01/17/2006 10:22:32 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Taking a stand and speaking up imperil one's health, but friends false and true are thereby known.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
That means the administration improperly tried to use a federal drug law to prosecute Oregon doctors who prescribe overdoses.

Didn't sound like the Admin made the smart play in fighting this. Quite a stretch to extend the drug laws to ban euthanasia.

482 posted on 01/17/2006 10:22:47 AM PST by montag813
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It appears statutory.


483 posted on 01/17/2006 10:23:11 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Taking a stand and speaking up imperil one's health, but friends false and true are thereby known.)
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To: La Enchiladita
I was responding to the earlier case (1992) that you cited, NY vs. US.

I'm not sure that's very useful, as it deals with the Feds imposing an affirmative duty onto the states. But SCOTUS did say that one of the three provisions exceeded the power of FedGov over states, and severed that provision from the federally imposed nuclear waste disposal regime. IOW, the case is sort of a mixed bag.

484 posted on 01/17/2006 10:23:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: conservative physics
It is my opinion that the most fundamental responsibility of government is to protect the lives of it's citizens (even from themselves if necessary), and any government which abrogates that right has lost all legitimacy

That has to be the most leftist statement I've seen on FR, a complete advocacy of the nanny state.

485 posted on 01/17/2006 10:23:33 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: B Knotts

Loopholing.


486 posted on 01/17/2006 10:24:14 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Taking a stand and speaking up imperil one's health, but friends false and true are thereby known.)
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To: Cboldt

No wonder it confused me. It was cited by another FReeper as a landmark fed gov vs states rights case.

NOW, I am going to do my laundry!


487 posted on 01/17/2006 10:27:02 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Taking a stand and speaking up imperil one's health, but friends false and true are thereby known.)
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To: greasepaint
this is a matter for the states

Agreed. We need to be consistent.

488 posted on 01/17/2006 10:28:39 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Siena Dreaming
I hope most states choose life. God touches hearts through the dying process and brings many souls to himself. Dealing with pain is actually a part of life.

So what if someone is an atheist, do they still have to be forced to suffer excruciating pain in order to accommodate your religion? How compassionate of you. The only life you own is your own, what others decide to do to their own is not your business nor the state's.

"If nanny states want to choose to social engineer who lives and dies that's up to them. But by far most states will choose life. The others should be shunned."

Please cite where I say that the state should get to decide who lives and dies. If states let people DECIDE to kill themselves by smoking does this mean they decide "who lives and dies" by giving adults the opportunity to make this decision? The state is not choosing anything. The individual who owns his or her own life is.
489 posted on 01/17/2006 10:29:33 AM PST by IranIsNext
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To: BunnySlippers
As a GEN X I am proud to say my MIL will never go into a nursing home unless for temp rehabilitation ( say she breaks her leg and needs PT) otherwise she will be living until God calls her in the 2 bedroom apt. in my home. If need be she will have full time nursing care as well.

I also took care of my great grandmother and would have done similar had her money not been stolen by one of her greedy grandchildren. She was with me until age 96 at which time she fell and broke both hips. I had no financial means to support her return to the home and her money was all stolen by my father, her grandson(who was born in 1942).

Lucky for me my father has a wife who is a few years older then me so we really have no reason to be in contact at all.

She ( my great gram) lived in nursing home for a little over a year and died at age 97. My conscious is clear.
490 posted on 01/17/2006 10:30:37 AM PST by alisasny (<h3>"Watching Ted Kennedy is a nonintellectual feast."</h3>)
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To: conservative physics

"Again I state that anyone who wants to die isn't mentally sound and that no one is arguing against pain medication."

Could you please scan and post here a copy of the certificate that says you are legally empowered to diagnosis thousands of people with a mental illness that you haven't even met?


491 posted on 01/17/2006 10:31:43 AM PST by IranIsNext
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To: SoFloFreeper

After Alito is confirmed next week, we will be one vote closer. Gotta hope one of the other geezers retires before Bush leaves office.


492 posted on 01/17/2006 10:31:53 AM PST by admiralsn (I believe God only gives three answers to prayer: Yes | Not yet | I have something better in mind)
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To: La Enchiladita
It was cited by another FReeper as a landmark fed gov vs states rights case.

It is a landmark fed gov v. states' right case, but the fact pattern it was regulating and the genesis and purpose(s) of the federal regulations are fairly far removed from regulating individual conduct and doctor liability at end-life, etc.

Not completely useless in the instant case, but tangential and difficult to apply to the facts of physicial assisted suicide and the degree of superiority of federal regulation of controlled substances.

493 posted on 01/17/2006 10:32:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hank Rearden

"Yeah, that's what we need - a theoracracy. It works so well in Iran and Saudi Arabia. Maybe we should derive our basis of law from those "Godly" plastic-haired, snakefondling moneygrubbers on TV, huh?"

Let's get a little perspective on the Law.

To understand the Constitution and this government of laws, it is important that we realize that the founders saw that because the rights they were seeking to protect were God- given, Creator- endowed rights, they would not be able to be sustained in society unless they were protected under a code of law which was itself in harmony with the Creator's law. They called this higher law, "natural law" or the "laws of nature."

James Madison, known as the major framer of the American Constitution, and one of its brilliant defenders, identified the leading principle for the success of the first form of a Republican government: "We have stacked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self- government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God"

It is clear that the Law we talk about is divined as coming from God.


494 posted on 01/17/2006 10:33:02 AM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the IslamoCommies here and abroad.)
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To: William Terrell

I hate to be pedantic, but it's something to do until I screw up myself.... :-)


495 posted on 01/17/2006 10:34:02 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So the liberals in OR can commit suicide...and the downside is?


496 posted on 01/17/2006 10:34:11 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: La Enchiladita
Some more of Justice Thomas' dissent:

I agree with limiting the applications of the CSA in a
manner consistent with the principles of federalism and
our constitutional structure. Raich, supra, at ___ (THO-
MAS, J., dissenting); cf . Whitman, supra, at 486487
(THOMAS, J., concurring) (noting constitutional concerns
with broad delegations of authority to administrative
agencies). But that is now water over the dam. The relevance of such considerations was at its zenith in Raich,
when we considered whether the CSA could be applied to
the intrastate possession of a controlled substance consis-
tent with the limited federal powers enumerated by the
Constitution. Such considerations have little, if any,
relevance where, as here, we are merely presented with a
question of statutory interpre tation, and not the extent of
constitutionally permissible federal power. This is par-
ticularly true where, as here, we are interpreting broad,
str aightforward language within a statutory framework
that a majority of this Court has concluded is so compre-
hensive that it necessarily nullifies the St ates' " `tradi-
tional . . . powers . . . to protect the health, safety, and
welfare of their citizens.' "2 Raich, supra, at ___, n. 38 (s lip
op., at 27, n. 38). The Court's reliance upon the constitu-
tional principles that it rejected in Raich--albeit under
the guise of statut ory interpretation--is perplexing to say
the least. Accordingly, I respectfully dissent.

497 posted on 01/17/2006 10:35:20 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: La Enchiladita
The case has to do with compliance with the federal CSA. Perhaps the CSA should be found un-Constitutional.

The CSA was fine, it just came down to Ashcroft not having the power to make that interpretation of it. I'm sure the fact that he didn't consult the Secretary of Health and Human Services as required by law didn't help. As a senator, he was behind a failed attempt to change it to cover assisted suicide, so this was an issue of one person trying to use law to push his personal beliefs.

The stated purpose of the law was to stop illicit trade in controlled drugs, to keep prescribed drugs out of the illegal drug trade. It also says that states have an interest and say in regulating their own medical practices. Ashcroft ignored the role the states play, in fact opposed a state's power to regulate its medical practice, and tried to extend the law into where it wasn't intended.

“No provision of this subchapter shall be construed as indicating an intent on the part of the Congress to occupy the field in which that provision operates . . . to the exclusion of any State law on the same subjectmatter which would otherwise be within the authority of the State, unless there is a positive conflict between that provision . . . and that State law so that the two cannot consistently stand together.” §903.
Since the law is about illicit trade and recreational use, there is no conflict. The only conflict is in Ashcroft's extended interpretation of the law.

The dissenters were wrong.

498 posted on 01/17/2006 10:35:30 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: SoFloFreeper
THE DECISION
499 posted on 01/17/2006 10:35:33 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, if the Supreme Court has no problem with "hubbies" murdering "wives" via slow, cruel & unusual starve/dying of thirst, then allowing others to 2nd guess disabled and old folks wishes re. live/die is to be expected.

Kill babies ok? Ok, sure, why not kill the elderly/infirm?

Next on to Jews, Gypsies and other sub-humans...ah, oops, I forgot, the 3rd Reich is no longer with us, right?


500 posted on 01/17/2006 10:39:27 AM PST by OldArmy52
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