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SUPREME COURT UPHOLDS OREGON'S SUICIDE LAW
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Posted on 01/17/2006 7:07:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

BREAKING ON THE AP WIRE:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has upheld Oregon's one-of-a-kind physician-assisted suicide law, rejecting a Bush administration attempt to punish doctors who help terminally ill patients die.


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To: La Enchiladita
I wonder on what Constitutional grounds the 3 justices dissented...

Exactly. That's why I'd like to read the decision and the dissent, and I'm not going to say very much until I do.

241 posted on 01/17/2006 8:35:42 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Fishtalk

"Oh absolutely. So long as YOU choose to kill yourself, meaning the mythical "you", then get a damn gun and do the deed. Again, I must ask, they gonna put you in jail?"

Not everyone has the luxury of being able to walk walk to a gun store, much less walk, much less leave their own bed, much less breath without being torn apart by agonizing pain.


242 posted on 01/17/2006 8:36:33 AM PST by Sols
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To: SandyInSeattle
Scalia, writing the dissent, said that federal officials have the power to regulate the doling out of medicine.

"If the term `legitimate medical purpose' has any meaning, it surely excludes the prescription of drugs to produce death," he wrote.

243 posted on 01/17/2006 8:36:59 AM PST by Borges
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To: mvpel

Not really. Being on life support for years after a MVA is a lot more costly to insurance companies than suicide.


245 posted on 01/17/2006 8:39:02 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
What happened to the Hippocratic oath of Doctors?

You mean the one that had this line: "I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion."

As I understand it, medical schools have for some years been redacting/rewriting the original oath to suit their tastes. Literally.

246 posted on 01/17/2006 8:39:22 AM PST by maryz
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To: conservative physics
This ruling will set the stage for the euthanizing of the baby boomer's once they become to big of a burden on their families.

Guess I don't have to save all that much for retirement after all. I can be dispatched immediately upon retirement, once I am no longer economically viable/cost more than I produce.

247 posted on 01/17/2006 8:39:47 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: lawdude

I agree with your message, as well as this ruling. It particularly disturbs me that "our guys" were not in the majority.


248 posted on 01/17/2006 8:40:21 AM PST by College Repub
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To: bvw
What authority? As the Declaration declares:

The Declaration of Independence is not part of our law. Even if it were, it declares a right. But people do not have to exercise rights. For example, many people who support the right to keep and bear arms do not own a weapon. Should we force them to even though they do not wish to exercise that right? Should we force those arrested for crimes not to give confessions since they have a right to not incriminate themselves?

I do despise nanny-state attitudes. Nothing personal, just in general.

249 posted on 01/17/2006 8:40:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: VRWCmember

Still waiting to read the dissent opinion.

There are people arguing here that your life is your own to end as you wish. Then why, in Oregon, did the people put the responsibility for euthanasia onto doctors? It seems all too cowardly to me; if you believe in suicide, then do it unassisted. Don't get doctors and governments involved.

I also question how committed to states' rights, the majority opinion justices are...


250 posted on 01/17/2006 8:41:34 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Taking a stand and speaking up imperil one's health, but friends false and true are thereby known.)
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To: Pyro7480

This isn't the right to life. It's the right to self-determination, diminishing the nanny-state just a bit.


251 posted on 01/17/2006 8:41:56 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Beelzebubba
How can so many conservatives argue that abortion is such a controversial and deeply held issue, that the people should be allowed to democratically determine it's legality. Yet the same people don't take the same stand on letting the people of each state decide how to handle this difficult issue?

Because almost everyone - including myself - is hypocritical & inconsistent when it comes to states' rights.

That's why we see such wildly different opinions re: states' rights from the public when it comes to such issues as gay marriage, gun control, assisted suicide, medicinal marijuana, abortion, etc, etc

252 posted on 01/17/2006 8:42:17 AM PST by gdani
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To: jaredt112; All
Recent Supreme Court opinions can be found at:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/05slipopinion.html

This particular one can be found at:
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/17jan20061050/www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/05pdf/04-623.pdf

If the above link is temporary, go to the first link and click on Gonzales v. Oregon.

The opinion of the majority is summarized in the syllabus (first 5 pages)
Justice Scalia's dissent starts on page 34
Justice Thomas' dissent starts on page 59
253 posted on 01/17/2006 8:42:32 AM PST by mwilli20 (temporarily tagged out...)
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To: Borges
I'm not as smart as the fine justices on the Supreme Court. But I do have what I believe would have been the correct answer. With verve and flair, I'll shall put it out there:

It is not in any way the purpose of the United States government or any of its states or protectorates, to get involved with any establishment of laws to discontinue a human life.

Since the constitution stipulates our peoples are entitled to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", it is this Court's opinion that any legislation involving the planned implementation of death is not legally a part of this country's governance oversight.We therefore strike down the Oregan law, somebody vs. someboy, as being an illegal law and not in that state's authority.

Then go find a good, sturdy gun aim it at your head, and pull the trigger. Putting this kind of crap in any kind of law is just dumb and the stuff of cowards.

254 posted on 01/17/2006 8:42:46 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: SoFloFreeper
I disagree with the ruling but I think this is a NARROW ruling and is just about this CASE. I do not believe assisted suicide is a settled issue. However I guess this dispells the notion that the SCOTUS is RIGHT WING.

With a 6-3 ruling on state sponsored assisted suicide I would say the LEFT LEANING on the COURT is solidly entrenched and the addition of Alito while pushing the COURT to the RIGHT doesn't make it the RIGHT WING MONSTER COURT so feared by the commies on the left.

255 posted on 01/17/2006 8:43:51 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: mvpel
Another nail in the coffin of seatbelt mandates, seems to me

We can only hope. I also despise seatbelt laws, although I always wear one and require all of my passengers to do so.

256 posted on 01/17/2006 8:44:44 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thats why I think this issue is a social issue, not a political one. This is probably the closest, nearest and dearest decision a person could ever make, in their whole life. And being such a personal thing, it seems to me it is more up to him, himself, his family, his pastor, and his doctor.

Not some legislature or court 3000 miles away.


257 posted on 01/17/2006 8:44:59 AM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: Fishtalk

The protections you mention are in the DOI not the Constitution. Therefore they have no legal standing.


258 posted on 01/17/2006 8:46:02 AM PST by Borges
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To: conserv13
How Roberts pass a 'conservative' test? I thought conservatives were for states rights and the Constitution?

I guess the conflict is between the right to life versus states rights.

I have maintained for months that Roberts will roll back the states rights movement. He has begun.

259 posted on 01/17/2006 8:46:22 AM PST by Founding Father (The War Against Western Civilization Has Begun)
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To: conserv13

Because.... the liberal leftist trend in this country is AWAY FROM personal responsbility ... and instead instituting heinous state laws that shift the responsbility for prematurely ending one's life onto doctors and onto government.


260 posted on 01/17/2006 8:46:41 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Taking a stand and speaking up imperil one's health, but friends false and true are thereby known.)
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