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Photo fakery at the New York Times
The American Thinker ^ | 1/16/2006 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 01/16/2006 5:19:53 AM PST by saveliberty

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To: CarrotAndStick
No not necessarily. lots of artillery, for instance the projectile from the Abrams tank, is fired through a smooth bore. The big battlewagons like the USS Missouri had rifled bores.
41 posted on 01/16/2006 5:41:30 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: TADSLOS

"Fake but Accurate" is the correct media terminology I believe.


42 posted on 01/16/2006 5:41:40 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: saveliberty
The NYT has now put up a corrected picture showing the civilian damage and Hellfire missile parts.
43 posted on 01/16/2006 5:44:40 AM PST by Wisconsin
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To: saveliberty

"As long as there are trust fund babies wanting us to comply, the NYT will find someone to pay for them"


Nicely put...


44 posted on 01/16/2006 5:44:45 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (To liberals, using large words is an acceptable substitute for logic...)
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To: Ditter

They are rapidly becoming a caricature of their former selves, IMO.


45 posted on 01/16/2006 5:45:10 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: saveliberty

Lifson was a Freeper back in '98-'99. And, a relative of George Washington.


46 posted on 01/16/2006 5:49:38 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: saveliberty
Related thread from the 14th

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558168/posts

47 posted on 01/16/2006 5:49:42 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Speaking of Muslim fakery to gain sympathy, compare the "Picture that Fooled the World", of an alleged barbed-wire concentration camp during the civil war in Bosnia in 1992, which was actually a picture of a Muslim tuberculosis sufferer in a TRANSFER camp with people free to come and go (with surrounding healthy men cropped out), and the photo was from INSIDE a storage area with barbed wire for protection against pilgerage.

But it was enough to set the stage for Clinton in 1995 to kill thousands of Christians in favor of the Muslims.

48 posted on 01/16/2006 5:50:18 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian (A bioh)
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To: Flightdeck
Just the person who wrote the caption is an idiot.

Additionally, it could have been an old stock photo from 2 years or more ago. The caption is the real screw up.
Even still, none of this changes the fact that there was a failed attempt to take out al Qaeda’s #2 man al Zawahiri with a missile attack from a Predator drone....which is the whole point of the story in the first plcae.

49 posted on 01/16/2006 5:50:22 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: saveliberty

I believe that he is wrong about it being unfired. You can clearly see the rifling marks on the lower band.


50 posted on 01/16/2006 5:52:50 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Quilla

where is backpack guy? (of wtc fame?)


51 posted on 01/16/2006 5:53:53 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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To: saveliberty

Wasn't directed toward you, just an observation. Sorry for the confusion.


52 posted on 01/16/2006 5:54:51 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: CarrotAndStick
For something as large as an artillery shell, wouldn't the rifling grooves be pre-cut onto the shells?

That's what the copper band is for. The shell's hard metal casing would destroy the rifling on the barrel after only one firing. Plus a shell made exactly to the size of the barrel could jam. Swiss Precision would be needed on every shell. The copper band is made smooth to follow the rifling grooves of the barrel, keep the round stable, and reduce barrel wear. It's engineered to use the bare minimum of copper needed. That's definitely a fired artillery round, of what exact size I'm not sure.

53 posted on 01/16/2006 5:55:34 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Wisconsin

Thank you!


54 posted on 01/16/2006 5:55:36 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out

:-) Thank you!

Great FReeper name btw


55 posted on 01/16/2006 5:56:19 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: saveliberty

It is noteworthy that NYT and some others of its ilk choose to pull this sort of stunt using a web format. Why? Because they figure if they get caught they can pull it and two days later it's forgotton. At least it becomes very difficult to make blame stick to them for very long. Unlike what would happen if they published it in a hard format as paper or magazine.

You'll notice they do the same thing with over the top slurs of republicans. DNC, Dem politicians, left wing groups have all gone to this technique. It makes it easier for the MSM to ignore or conveniently forget in 24 hours.


56 posted on 01/16/2006 5:57:36 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: saveliberty

Maybe they should change their name to the New Fake Times? How many times have they been caught??

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


57 posted on 01/16/2006 5:57:42 AM PST by bray (President Bush Protects America. The Rats Protect Terrorists.)
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To: Pharmboy

Excellent!

psst... So does this somehow make George Washington the father of Free Republic? ;-)


58 posted on 01/16/2006 5:57:51 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: saveliberty

Some of our best artillery would be put to excellent use if fired at the NY Times building.


59 posted on 01/16/2006 5:57:58 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: ASA Vet

Thank you!


60 posted on 01/16/2006 5:58:23 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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